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  • Leave No Neutral Behind

    GREAT article about facts and the realistic world.

    Ulkopoliittinen instituutti (UPI) on eduskunnan yhteydessä toimiva riippumaton tutkimuslaitos, jossa tutkitaan Suomen ulkopolitiikan keskeisiä teemoja,


    Read it, it's about the current state of the defense forces and the undeniable bad state of it. The material (men) is not bad, it's quite good, the bad is lack of resources, the lack of money. THe budget is so small that it can't renew itself into todays world and meet the requirements.

    Everyone who knows about FDF can pinpoint certain trouble areas that are too costly in the event of a real war. The main problem is the attitudes of the citizens and politicians, who live in the laalaaland.

    I don't want to write a monsterous OP so I let the discussion start and then I can move to problem areas and why it is so.
    It's quite trivial, really.
    In da butt.
    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
    THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
    "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

  • #2
    Thanks for not writing a monstrous OP

    When will Finland change its doctrine from conscript army to fully professional army?

    Also, when will you ****** sign the landmine ban?

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    • #3
      I don't know, not in a long time.. to fully pro army that is. We are having some new pro segments there, that are getting OK equipments and training though, but not enough those people still. More emphasis on that.

      The landmine ban should be never signed from us. Until everyone else agrees on it. It does not benefit us.
      In da butt.
      "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
      THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
      "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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      • #4
        Everyone's going professional except Finland. And North Korea.

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        • #5
          Damn neutrals. At least with evil you know where it stands.
          ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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          • #6
            Sure. I'm saying we should focus on strong pro stance too. I say we should make it volunteer based altogether, and make up some new units for pros. Focus on getting new fleets of fighter jets, and get our air **** together. Again, we have excellent material there, pilots, ranked at the very top even today, however we don't have enough them planes.
            In da butt.
            "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
            THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
            "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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            • #7
              joncha, and we are not really neutral either. We haven't been in a long time. This is a fact, most will agree with this, regardless of their political affiliation.
              In da butt.
              "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
              THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
              "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by joncha
                Damn neutrals. At least with evil you know where it stands.
                The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

                The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by joncha
                  Damn neutrals. At least with evil you know where it stands.


                  I was thinking the same:

                  "What makes a man turn neutral?"
                  “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                  "Capitalism ho!"

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                  • #10
                    "Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"
                    ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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                    • #11
                      I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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                      • #12
                        they spend 4 billion francs a year in switzerland to assure our neutrality. Thats just under $3 billion US a year (for comparison, the farmers here get in direct aid about $2 billion a year, and when you add that to indirect aid, you get about $6 Billion a year)
                        "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                        • #13
                          Ah, it seems we are preparing to fight the last war, not the next.

                          But I hear the current standard-issue AR for FDF, the RK-95 I think it is, is still good.
                          I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"

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                          • #14
                            tattila the hun, exactly..

                            the assault rifle is not the problem . It's the rest.
                            In da butt.
                            "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                            THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                            "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                            • #15
                              "Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"
                              "You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James Napier

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