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  • #16
    Originally posted by Verto
    I love how blatantly they steal ideas from others, ie the Exposé-esque show all tabs feature, used in Shiira...two birds in one stone.
    Oh, give it up.

    Apple is not the first person to do either of those -- MS showed the Expose-like features many years ago as part of MSR's 3D desktop experiment.

    It's a good move for Microsoft to make changes in reaction to features people liked it competitor's products. This competition is what makes the market move forward.

    Microsoft makes changes that users want, regardless of their origins. Apple, on the other hand, just has to be different, even when it's at the detriment to user functionality (ie: the Finder, the Dock, the lack of access control lists, etc).

    I don't recall you and your ilk getting upset with Safari for ripping off Opera and Firefox. Suddenly Microsoft is "stealing" when they implement a similar design.

    Similar story with Core Image being a ripoff of Direct3D, or the Fast User Switching being a ripoff of Windows XP, or the multiple-button mouse being a ripoff from the PC, etc.
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    • #17
      Im using it in paralell with Firefox atm (because Live Mail isn't fully compatible with Firefox yet), but I doubt I'll switch simply due to my 50-odd extensions which I can't imagine browsing without.
      "You are one of the cheerleaders for this wasting of time and the wasting of lives. Do you feel any remorse for having contributed to this "culture of death?" Of course not. Hey, let's all play MORE games, and ignore all the really productive things to do with our lives.
      Let's pretend to be shocked that a gamer might descend into deeper depression, as his gamer "buds," knowing he was killing himself, couldn't figure out how to call 911 themselves for him. That would have involved leaving their computers I guess."

      - Jack Thompson

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      • #18
        First bug found for Internet Explorer Beta 2

        An independent researcher needed just 15 minutes to find the first bug in the Beta 2 preview release of Microsoft's Internet Explorer 7 browser.

        Tom Ferris, of Mission Viejo, California, published his findings Tuesday just hours after Microsoft released the beta code. His findings are posted at http://www.security-protocols.com/ad...-advisory.txt. Ferris discovered the bug, which causes Internet Explorer (IE) to crash when it tries to read a specially crafted HTML (Hypertext Markup Language) file, using an automated security testing tool, called a "fuzzer" that he wrote to test Microsoft's browsers.

        "Whenever they patch, I normally run IE through the fuzzing iterations, just to see if there [is something new]," he said. Ferris posted his findings at 8:30 p.m. Pacific time on Tuesday, the same day IE Beta 2 was released, he said.

        Right now the bug can be exploited only to crash the browser, but Ferris says it's likely that his attack could eventually be modified to run unauthorized code on a user's machine.
        I know this is a beta version, but this sort of thing does not exactly inpire confidence.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Asher
          It's a good move for Microsoft to make changes in reaction to features people liked it competitor's products. This competition is what makes the market move forward.
          Except when it is the OS market?
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          • #20


            It's a frickin' beta. Christ.

            There are data loss bugs in Firefox still not addressed after being made public for 4 years, I don't see how you can ignore that and pick apart Microsoft betas for having bugs.

            I might add that the last line of that article is total BS. FUD, if you will.

            Reminds me of the kind of propaganda they get in China.
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Urban Ranger
              Except when it is the OS market?
              Back up your claim for once -- since when was adopting more standardized interfaces across operating systems a bad thing?
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • #22
                slimmer look = bigger porn
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                • #23
                  Way too little, way too late.
                  He's got the Midas touch.
                  But he touched it too much!
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Sikander
                    Way too little, way too late.
                    That's what she said!

                    Bam! I went there.
                    "You are one of the cheerleaders for this wasting of time and the wasting of lives. Do you feel any remorse for having contributed to this "culture of death?" Of course not. Hey, let's all play MORE games, and ignore all the really productive things to do with our lives.
                    Let's pretend to be shocked that a gamer might descend into deeper depression, as his gamer "buds," knowing he was killing himself, couldn't figure out how to call 911 themselves for him. That would have involved leaving their computers I guess."

                    - Jack Thompson

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Axxaer


                      That's what she said!

                      Bam! I went there.
                      Actually what she said was, "Way too little, way too early."
                      He's got the Midas touch.
                      But he touched it too much!
                      Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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                      • #26
                        I used IE7 Beta 2 for about 30 minutes. I can't get passed the awful UI.

                        I like my menu bar on top (with my Links menu right next to it for easy access to my sites), a single row of icons and the adressbar.

                        I am glad you can turn off tabs though. That's the only thing my keeps me from using FF. I used tabs once, meant to minimize the windows and end up pressing close. I was p*ssed.

                        Besides, I switch between windows explorer and the internet too much and having the same UI really makes things easier for me.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by bipolarbear
                          slimmer look = bigger porn
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Thrawn05
                            I am glad you can turn off tabs though. That's the only thing my keeps me from using FF. I used tabs once, meant to minimize the windows and end up pressing close. I was p*ssed.
                            You can turn of tabs in FF if you know how.
                            "You are one of the cheerleaders for this wasting of time and the wasting of lives. Do you feel any remorse for having contributed to this "culture of death?" Of course not. Hey, let's all play MORE games, and ignore all the really productive things to do with our lives.
                            Let's pretend to be shocked that a gamer might descend into deeper depression, as his gamer "buds," knowing he was killing himself, couldn't figure out how to call 911 themselves for him. That would have involved leaving their computers I guess."

                            - Jack Thompson

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Axxaer


                              You can turn of tabs in FF if you know how.
                              I asked once at their offical forums, and I got chastised for not liking tabs.

                              Oh well, I like my UI setup, and that's more important to me. I security conscience enough to know what not to do on the net. That's why I don't bother with a firewall (thank God for NAT routers). I only got a virus twice and both times avast! stopped it before it went any further.
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                              • #30
                                Have they improved (X)HTML/CSS rendering too? Or is this nothing more than a UI face-lift?
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