Guardian: Bush planned for war all along. & knew it was unlikely there were WMDs.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by StarLightDeath
I'm from the US, we don't speak French here unless we're interrogating someone.

But this website isn't the US, is it? Well I guess the server is hosted in the US though it is half owned by a Greek Individual.

Also French is one of the official languages in Louisiana. I know it's easy to forget about that place, I mean, Bush sure did.

[Seeker]

"One wonders whether these criminals will be brought to justice."
Referring to the French or the Bush-Blair combine?

[Dinner]

Originally posted by StarLightDeath
They do speak Spanish, but nobody likes them.

I imagine lots of people like the hispanic immigrants more then they like you.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Oerdin


But this website isn't the US, is it? Well I guess the server is hosted in the US though it is half owned by a Greek Individual.

And half by a Canadian...

[StarLightDeath]

I imagine lots of people like the hispanic immigrants more then they like you.

You imagine alot of things, it's why you're a liberal.

[Berzerker]

Repubs impeach Clinton for lying about a blowjob but look the other way as a Prez lies us into a war.

[Seeker]

Considering hispanics will soon be a majority in many US states, and then nationally, I wonder what life will become like for traditional conservative ****s like StarBright? I wonder how the Mexicans will act towards their former oppressors once they have the power of the majority...nothing nice I hope.

The Old America StarLight represents is dying of low birth rate, heart disease and old age. Not to mentiona ideological bankruptcy. Nobody's gonna miss it much.

Viva Nuevo America!!

[Dinner]

Originally posted by StarLightDeath

You imagine alot of things, it's why you're a liberal.

I'm a liberal?

I'll remember that next time I'm accused of being a reactionary.

[Agathon]

"One wonders whether these criminals will be brought to justice."
Referring to the French or the Bush-Blair combine?

I meant the latter lying sacks of crap.

I don't know about Bush, but Bliar seems to have clearly broken the law. He needs to be transported to a PMITA prison ASAP.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by cronos_qc
Bush have not done this because democracy is good for Irakians, but I'm pretty sure(as many neo-conservatives think) democracy with capitalism in Middle-east, will bring an higher number of people in the middle-class. And middle-class is known as to be less.... warmonguering, they care more about their own lives(and having money), and to their childrens.

I don't think that's the case. Mr George W Bush has always wanted to establish a US lackey government sympathetic to the US West in Iraq.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

Well the issue here should be.

Finally there is more and more public evidence that the people who still hold the office - lied - to start the war, and well if our democracies are worth a damn, than we will hold them accountable for their actions.

*wandering what will happen* :nothing:

If El Bush went in with the democratization idea, he would have been blown off, as the real problems that he is facing now, would have been clearly pointed out to him, and the idea wouldn't fly.

Or he he was honest and said: Well we are losing our close allies Saudis, Iran hates us, and so does Saddam, we might face real problems in the politically unstable ME, Kuwait is too small an ally and we cannot guarantee its security after removing forces from Saudi Arabia. Turkey is not so cooperative eiter as it was in the past, so we have a problematic security situation in near future with ME which provides us with x% of our energy and we need to do something to secure the region. The easiest path is through setting up a different regime in Iraq (and well give democracy a go, as it's best for us all if it works)

We'd see what would the Congress or most other people say about that.

[Fake Boris]

The whole OP - DUH!!!

[Pekka]

I think the real points Oerdin made were bolded. That Blair offered his support no matter what, one could say legal or illegal, and that Dubya had some ideas about provoking it using UN as a tool.

I think that's something new. Or at least partially new. But one has to consider the source. Guardian. Plus, what Blair said is something normal, you know 'we'll back you up', without things happening yet so I don't see that as something strange.

THe idea about painting a plane to UN colours and spying and if fired upon, claiming it as an incident, well that's more screwed up. However, it didn't happen, so it was all talk.

[mrmitchell]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Do they not speak Spanish in the US? Fire up that **** and let's make fun of you when you **** up.

KrazyHorse, you're being narrowminded about this. I think we should make fun of SLD no matter what language he speaks.

[Arrian]

Two things, having not bothered to read the thread:

1) Duh.
2) It's the friggin' Guardian.

-Arrian