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  • #16
    Originally posted by Richelieu

    masturbation
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Sava


      well, I would say it's wrong to generalize and stereotype ALL Republicans

      but if you were to analyze every single Republican vs every single Democrat in the entire United States... you'd find more racists among the Republicans... by far...
      Is not wanting to live in areas with large numbers of blacks racist? If so, then I think you'll find that practically all whites - repub or dem - tend to act a bit 'racist'.
      ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
      ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Caligastia


        Is not wanting to live in areas with large numbers of blacks racist? If so, then I think you'll find that practically all whites - repub or dem - tend to act a bit 'racist'.
        not quite

        why don't you look at the break-down of how counties vote versus income level and demographics (by race)

        it has more to do with economics than race... urban vs rural vs suburban

        sure, there is some truth to what you say with white democrats being uneasy in the ghetto... but it's more to do with crime and poverty than race...

        if rich black people moved in to the neighborhood, for instance, the white democrats wouldn't have a problem... it's more cultural than racial...


        but for the Repukes, I would suspect it's more racial... especially in the South...

        but then again, it is not something that can be generalized... each person is different. It's hard to know what each person feels in their heart.

        But again, if you were to analyze every single Republican vs every single Democrat, you would find more racists among the Republicans... easily... there is no question about it.

        There's no shame in admitting it.

        It's mostly because of the South.
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • #19
          Depends on how you want to define "racist" I suppose. The word is so overused it's hard to know what is meant by it anymore.
          ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
          ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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          • #20
            But again, if you were to analyze every single Republican vs every single Democrat, you would find more racists among the Republicans... easily... there is no question about it.
            I don't think so. I;d say it's about the same.

            The diff?
            I would say the Repubs are more color blind racists while Dems are more pity racists.
            Monkey!!!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
              He didn't prove the point, the study was based on statistics. Yeah, he could have just said that's bull or could have just ignored it, but he didn't verify the results.
              Yeah, it's based on statistics but that doesn't mean it was done correctly. I'd like to see how they got rid of a number of confounding variables that could appear.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Japher
                I would say the Repubs are more color blind racists while Dems are more pity racists.
                I would agree with this...



                Calig: there are many kinds of racists... passive, active... "pity" as Japher described...

                when I say there are more Republicans that are racists... I mean generally more active racists... people the see a black person and just think "I hate those lazy cornbread eating welfare collecting people"... or whatever...

                passive racism is hard to measure... it's probably equal among moderate Republicans and moderate Democrats... the wishy washy suburban white people... the people who would see a black person and might not do it on purpose, but would maybe clutch their purse... or lock their doors if they were in their cars... that kind of thing... or would maybe look suspiciously at the black guy with the baggy pants and think he is a gang banger...

                with Democrats, you get the "pity" racists who have never met a black person in their life, but are all about helping the black community, even though they have no idea what the community may actually want, etc... they have good intentions, and want to help, but are somewhat racist because they feel that black people can't help themselves so they need the charity... etc...

                most of these are just stereotypes... but you get my drift... each person is different, but again, many people can fall into these categories
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #23
                  Princeton:
                  Say, Kate, can I ask you a question?

                  Kate Monster:
                  Sure!

                  Princeton:
                  Well, you know Trekkie Monster upstairs?

                  Kate Monster:
                  Uh huh.

                  Princeton:
                  Well, he's Trekkie Monster, and you're Kate Monster.

                  Kate Monster:
                  Right.

                  Princeton:
                  You're both Monsters.

                  Kate Monster:
                  Yeah.

                  Princeton:
                  Are you two related?

                  Kate Monster:
                  What?! Princeton, I'm surprised at you! I find that racist!

                  Princeton:
                  Oh, well, I'm sorry! I was just asking!

                  Kate Monster:
                  Well, it's a touchy subject.
                  No, not all Monsters are related.
                  What are you trying say, huh?
                  That we all look the same to you?
                  Huh, huh, huh?

                  Princeton:
                  No, no, no, not at all. I'm sorry,
                  I guess that was a little racist.

                  Kate Monster:
                  I should say so. You should be much more
                  careful when you're talking about the
                  sensitive subject of race.

                  Princeton:
                  Well, look who's talking!

                  Kate Monster:
                  What do you mean?

                  Princeton:
                  What about that special Monster School you told me about?

                  Kate Monster:
                  What about it?

                  Princeton:
                  Could someone like me go there?

                  Kate Monster:
                  No, we don't want people like you-

                  Princeton:
                  You see?!

                  You're a little bit racist.

                  Kate Monster:
                  Well, you're a little bit too.

                  Princeton:
                  I guess we're both a little bit racist.

                  Kate Monster:
                  Admitting it is not an easy thing to do...

                  Princeton:
                  But I guess it's true.

                  Kate Monster:
                  Between me and you,
                  I think

                  Both:
                  Everyone's a little bit racist
                  Sometimes.
                  Doesn't mean we go
                  Around committing hate crimes.
                  Look around and you will find
                  No one's really color blind.
                  Maybe it's a fact
                  We all should face
                  Everyone makes judgments
                  Based on race.

                  Princeton:
                  Now not big judgments, like who to hire
                  or who to buy a newspaper from -

                  Kate Monster:
                  No!

                  Princeton:
                  No, just little judgments like thinking that Mexican
                  busboys should learn to speak goddamn English!

                  Kate Monster:
                  Right!

                  Both:
                  Everyone's a little bit racist
                  Today.
                  So, everyone's a little bit racist
                  Okay!
                  Ethinic jokes might be uncouth,
                  But you laugh because
                  They're based on truth.
                  Don't take them as
                  Personal attacks.
                  Everyone enjoys them -
                  So relax!

                  Princeton:
                  All right, stop me if you've heard this one.

                  Kate Monster:
                  Okay!

                  Princeton:
                  There's a plan going down and there's only
                  one paracute. And there's a rabbi, a priest...

                  Kate Monster:
                  And a black guy!

                  Gary Coleman:
                  Whatchoo talkin' 'bout Kate?

                  Kate Monster:
                  Uh...

                  Gary Coleman:
                  You were telling a black joke!

                  Princeton:
                  Well, sure, Gary, but lots of people tell black jokes.

                  Gary Coleman:
                  I don't.

                  Princeton:
                  Well, of course you don't - you're black!
                  But I bet you tell Polack jokes, right?

                  Gary Coleman:
                  Well, sure I do. Those stupid Polacks!

                  Princeton:
                  Now, don't you think that's a little racist?

                  Gary Coleman:
                  Well, damn, I guess you're right.

                  Kate Monster:
                  You're a little bit racist.

                  Gary Coleman:
                  Well, you're a little bit too.

                  Princeton:
                  We're all a little bit racist.

                  Gary Coleman:
                  I think that I would
                  Have to agree with you.

                  Princeton/Kate Monster:
                  We're glad you do.

                  Gary Coleman:
                  It's sad but true!
                  Everyone's a little bit racist -

                  All right!

                  Kate Monster:
                  All right!

                  Princeton:
                  All right!

                  Gary Coleman:
                  All right!
                  Bigotry has never been
                  Exclusively white

                  All:
                  If we all could just admit
                  That we are racist a little bit,
                  Even though we all know
                  That it's wrong,
                  Maybe it would help us
                  Get along.

                  Princeton:
                  Oh, Christ do I feel good.

                  Gary Coleman:
                  Now there was a fine upstanding black man!

                  Princeton:
                  Who?

                  Gary Coleman:
                  Jesus Christ.

                  Kate Monster:
                  But, Gary, Jesus was white.

                  Gary Coleman:
                  No, Jesus was black.

                  Kate Monster:
                  No, Jesus was white.

                  Gary Coleman:
                  No, I'm pretty sure that Jesus was black-

                  Princeton:
                  Guys, guys...Jesus was Jewish!

                  Brian:
                  Hey guys, what are you laughing about?

                  Gary Coleman:
                  Racism!

                  Brian:
                  Cool.

                  Christmas Eve:
                  BRIAN! Come back here!
                  You take out lecycuraburs!

                  Princeton:
                  What's that mean?

                  Brian:
                  Um, recyclables.
                  Hey, don't laugh at her!
                  How many languages do you speak?

                  Kate Monster:
                  Oh, come off it, Brian!
                  Everyone's a little bit racist.

                  Brian:
                  I'm not!

                  Princeton:
                  Oh no?

                  Brian:
                  Nope!

                  How many Oriental wives
                  Have you got?

                  Christmas Eve:
                  What? Brian!

                  Princeton:
                  Brian, buddy, where you been?
                  The term is Asian-American!

                  Christmas Eve:
                  I know you are no
                  Intending to be
                  But calling me Oriental -
                  Offensive to me!

                  Brian:
                  I'm sorry, honey, I love you.

                  Christmas Eve:
                  And I love you.

                  Brian:
                  But you're racist, too.

                  Christmas Eve:
                  Yes, I know.
                  The Jews have all
                  The money
                  And the whites have all
                  The power.
                  And I'm always in taxi-cab
                  With driver who no shower!

                  Princeton:
                  Me too!

                  Kate Monster:
                  Me too!

                  Gary Coleman:
                  I can't even get a taxi!

                  All:
                  Everyone's a little bit racist
                  It's true.
                  But everyone is just about
                  As racist as you!
                  If we all could just admit
                  That we are racist a little bit,
                  And everyone stopped being
                  So PC
                  Maybe we could live in -
                  Harmony!

                  Christmas Eve:
                  Evlyone's a ritter bit lacist!
                  ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                  ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                  • #24
                    I went around looking for tests, and found some interesting "Implicit Association" tests. We all know we love tests.





                    Why not test it ourselves then, to see what our bias is? Particularly the Race and Presidents tests...

                    I got "a slight automatic preference for European Americans compared to African Americans" and a "moderate automatic preference for Thomas Jefferson compared to George W. Bush."
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                    • #25
                      Re the title

                      I could've told you that. Without a million dollar research grant, too.
                      meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Mercator
                        I went around looking for tests, and found some interesting "Implicit Association" tests. We all know we love tests.





                        Why not test it ourselves then, to see what our bias is? Particularly the Race and Presidents tests...

                        I got "a slight automatic preference for European Americans compared to African Americans" and a "moderate automatic preference for Thomas Jefferson compared to George W. Bush."
                        I took the test, and got a strong association. It seems I'm a racist.

                        Though it's probably mostly to do with the fact that I never knew any black people growing up. I never knew a black person personally until high school, and never actually had a black friend until college.
                        Lime roots and treachery!
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                        • #27
                          ive slightly associated african americans with harmless weapons and european americans with weapons
                          "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                          • #28
                            Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between White American and Black American.
                            Part of the test kept tripping me up. I guess that's what it's supposed to do, though.
                            meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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                            • #29
                              Cali: Avenue Q
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                              • #30
                                What's wrong with living around lots of Black people?
                                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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