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  • #31
    Originally posted by Q Cubed
    But then again, as you said, none of use are going to be here when things run out. It's just a shame that nobody cares about the generations to come and the problems we are causing for them.


    Humans have never cared about their children's children.

    This generation thinks nothing of saddling our generation with the costs of their spending spree. Our generation thinks nothing of giving the next one nothing but atomized and chaotic culture.

    When confronted with long-term benefits and short-term gluttony, our minds and our instincts are wired for the latter.
    Noooooooooooooooooooooo - humankind cant be that cruel !!!
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

    Steven Weinberg

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Harry Tuttle


      Zombie Simon?
      Why not? The undead have to make ends meet somehow.
      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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      • #33
        Originally posted by DinoDoc
        Why not? The undead have to make ends meet somehow.
        Well he does have many "offspring" to carry on his legacy.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Winston
          Very disturbing. I think I'll go into hand lotion stock.
          Now that's disturbing.
          "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
          "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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          • #35
            I sell aerospace-grade metal for a living, and it's a real problem at the moment. When the A380 went into production, the Chinese bought up pretty much all the raw aluminium they could get their hands on; it's a real problem especially for European mills. We're ok because we source in America but even there, mills are quoting 6 to 12 month lead times!

            Nickel is a real pain in the arse as well. Grades of stainless with a high nickel content are like gold dust, likewise the nickel alloys. Prices have doubled in the last 6 months, because anyone with it on the floor can charge whatever the hell they want!

            Vacmelt alloys too are difficult, but they always were since there are very few mills that can produce it. The nickel and aluminium crisis just compounds things.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Whaleboy
              I sell aerospace-grade metal for a living, and it's a real problem at the moment. When the A380 went into production, the Chinese bought up pretty much all the raw aluminium they could get their hands on; it's a real problem especially for European mills. We're ok because we source in America but even there, mills are quoting 6 to 12 month lead times!

              Nickel is a real pain in the arse as well. Grades of stainless with a high nickel content are like gold dust, likewise the nickel alloys. Prices have doubled in the last 6 months, because anyone with it on the floor can charge whatever the hell they want!

              Vacmelt alloys too are difficult, but they always were since there are very few mills that can produce it. The nickel and aluminium crisis just compounds things.
              Vindication!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Harry Tuttle


                Vindication!
                Ehrr, no. Just that somebody has cornered the market and that production capacity at the moment can't cope.
                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                Steven Weinberg

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by BlackCat

                  Ehrr, no. Just that somebody has cornered the market and that production capacity at the moment can't cope.
                  Yeah I know, but I can dream.

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                  • #39
                    As with oil tightening supplies will drive up prices to "rediculous" levels atwhich point people will conserve, substitute and develope alternative sources.

                    Metal is a building material for its physical properties and has a LOT of substitutes, even when used for its electirical properties these can be substituted with fiber optics. I'm no electiritian but I bet some non-metalic wire would be developed for electric transmition. Chemical properties for catalysts would be trickier.
                    Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche

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