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    Earth's Limited Supply of Metals Raises Concern LiveScience Staff

    LiveScience.com
    Fri Jan 20, 10:00 AM ET

    If all nations were to use the same services enjoyed in developed nations, even the full extraction of metals from the Earth's crust and extensive recycling may not be enough to meet metal demands in the future, according to a new study.

    To investigate the environmental and social consequences of metal depletion, researchers looked at metal stocks thought to exist in the Earth, metal in use by people today, and how much is lost in landfills.

    Using copper stocks in North America as a starting point, the researchers tracked the evolution of copper mining, use and loss during the 20th century. They then combined this information with other data to estimate what the global demand for copper and other metals would be if all nations were fully developed and using modern technologies.

    According to the study, all of the copper in ore, plus all of the copper currently in use, would be required to bring the world to the level of the developed nations for power transmission, construction and other services and products that depend on the metal.

    The study, led by Thomas Graedel of Yale University, was detailed in the Jan. 17 issue of the journal for the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

    For the entire globe, the researchers estimate that 26 percent of extractable copper in the Earth's crust is now lost in non-recycled wastes. For zinc, that number is 19 percent.

    These metals are not at risk of immediate depletion, however, because supplies are still large enough to meet demands and mines have become more efficient at extracting these ores.

    But scarce metals, such as platinum, face depletion risks this century because of the lack of suitable substitutes in such devices as catalytic converters and hydrogen fuel cells.

    The researchers also found that for many metals, the average rate of usage per person continues to rise. As a result, the report says, even the more plentiful metals may face similar depletion risks in the future.

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    Interesting theory. Maybe when I'm 70 I'll be able to track down a platinum asteroid and make a fortune.

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    Re: Metals becoming scarce, Stone Age upon us

    Originally posted by Harry Tuttle




    Interesting theory. Maybe when I'm 70 I'll be able to track down a platinum asteroid and make a fortune.
    Don't count on that as an retirement plan - several polytubbies consider space exploration a waste of money
    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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      Re: Re: Metals becoming scarce, Stone Age upon us

      Originally posted by BlackCat


      Don't count on that as an retirement plan - several polytubbies consider space exploration a waste of money
      I'll just invest in whatever scheme DanS has cooked up and whammo, I'll have my own rocket.

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      • #4
        I blame the Chinese for this. First they kill off the rhinos and pulverize them for a good time with the Mrs., and now they use up all the copper to gain high speed internet access.

        Very disturbing. I think I'll go into hand lotion stock.

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        • #5
          In the meantime, you might wan't to invest in a bridge I happen to have for sale
          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

          Steven Weinberg

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          • #6
            High-tech cheramics will bring us the second stone age
            So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
            Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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            • #7
              Interesting article, although presumably it's possible to reclaim copper from landfills (at a hefty expense, no doubt).

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              • #8
                Plastics:

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sandman
                  Interesting article, although presumably it's possible to reclaim copper from landfills (at a hefty expense, no doubt).
                  My uncle used to go on about that, and it is possible, but consider the leaching that occurs when Copper comes in contact with water. I'm sure there are plenty of situations where the copper stock has degraded.

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                    Is it time for Julian Simon to make more money?
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                    • #11
                      So is this before or after Peak Oil?
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                      • #12
                        It depends on when we start drilling for oil on asteroids.
                        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                        Steven Weinberg

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                        • #13
                          Oh, and wasn't this mentioned in the premise of the show SeaQuest DSV?

                          Y'know, the one with Jaws guy. Which had a barely decent first season, and then went downhill, almost to the levels of Enterprise. (That's hyperbole. There's no way SeaQuest, Season 2/3, as bad as they were, could be as bad as Enterprise, Seasons 1-3.)
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BlackCat
                            It depends on when we start drilling for oil on asteroids.
                            Well, there's no oil on any asteroids that we know of. It's unlikely they'll have oil, too, to boot. So... no unilateral invasions of rogue asteroids, which may or may not be hellbent on destroying our way of life by hurtling towards Earth. That'll satisfy the leftists, I'm sure.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Q Cubed
                              So... no unilateral invasions of rogue asteroids, which may or may not be hellbent on destroying our way of life by hurtling towards Earth.
                              "I'm doing my part! Are you?"
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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