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  • #16
    Originally posted by SlowwHand
    A veteran is nothing more or less than a person who gave some back. They're people. As people, they have varying opinions on all things.
    To think that any group of people associated by service means they all have the same views on all things is ludicrous.

    That's like saying all Gays think the exact same on all things.
    We know that's not correct, don't we? Certainly we do.

    Which is why I haven't said all veterans.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Kuciwalker


      I'm just pointing out the idiocy of mrfun's satirical use of "X supports terrorism/hates freedom"
      Haven't you heard of real, actual vicious slanderous attacks made by a few politicians against a few veterans just because those veterans have questioned some of the war policy??


      There's a kernel of truth in my exaggerated satirical posts.
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      • #18
        I think we have what, 4 million veterans (nearly 2 million VFW members alone) ... i'm sure there are a decent number of veterans that can be found to support any given stance

        On the other hand ...


        Washington, Jan. 4, 2006 – The Veterans of Foreign Wars of the U.S. passed a national resolution yesterday to support the president and the war in Iraq as part of the larger global war on terrorism. VFW Resolution 440 also stipulates that American forces should remain in Iraq in sufficient numbers until Iraqi forces can provide security for their own nation.

        The out of session move by America’s largest organization of combat veterans to support the war is meant to get the nation refocused on supporting the troops instead of armchair quarterbacking the how and why the war in Iraq began.

        “You can’t support the troops without supporting their mission and the president as they work to bring security and stability to a region of the world that is the centerpiece of the war on terrorism,” said VFW Commander-in-Chief Jim Mueller, a Vietnam veteran from O’Fallon, Mo.

        “Once the decision is made to commit our forces, our nation’s number one priority must be to support the troops so that they can accomplish their mission and return home to their families with their heads held high,” he said.

        “Our servicemen and women recognize the importance of their mission because they are witnessing positive changes every day in the lives of the Iraqi people and the future of the Iraqi nation. They ask for nothing less than America’s unwavering support so that they can remain focused on accomplishing that mission,” he said. “To withdraw our forces prematurely would be a win for the enemy and a real threat to the rest of the Middle East and to the American homeland.”
        Given that VFW represents a huge percentage - around half, iirc - of our wartime veterans, I'd say this means rather more than the OP's link.
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        • #19
          Who gives a **** what veterans as a group think? Their opinions are not any more valid regarding national policy than those of your general public.
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          • #20
            Has MrFun ever been fun?
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            • #21
              Originally posted by GePap
              Who gives a **** what veterans as a group think? Their opinions are not any more valid regarding national policy than those of your general public.
              Then why does this thread have any relevance at all.
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              • #22
                Have I said it has any????

                Funny, I fail to see where I posted that.....
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                • #23
                  Most of the vets I know are against the war.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by snoopy369
                    I think we have what, 4 million veterans (nearly 2 million VFW members alone) ... i'm sure there are a decent number of veterans that can be found to support any given stance

                    On the other hand ...




                    Given that VFW represents a huge percentage - around half, iirc - of our wartime veterans, I'd say this means rather more than the OP's link.
                    I never argued that the majority of veterans oppose the war in Iraq.

                    I never argued that veterans are a monolithic group of people.
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                    • #25
                      So what exactly is it you're trying to say, and does it have any point to it?

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                      • #26
                        A I said, veterans have differing views. To find that the majority take a position on a particular issue isn't the same as saying, all vets are robotic.

                        And no, as I said, a vet's stance on an issue doesn't have to be your's.
                        That said, a vet knows more about the world than a civilian. Tourism doesn't really count.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by SlowwHand
                          And no, as I said, a vet's stance on an issue doesn't have to be your's.
                          That said, a vet knows more about the world than a civilian. Tourism doesn't really count.
                          Is that so?

                          That is such a HUGE assumptions, and most likely generally wrong.

                          One's knowledge of the world is consumate with how much they are willing to learn about it. For every guy how explores a country they were stationed in is a guy who sits in the base soaking up America and ignoring that they aren;t in the US as much as possible.

                          As for who knows most about the world, DIPLOMATS (civilians) win.
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                          • #28
                            he's trying to say a minority of veterans oppose the war

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                            • #29
                              GePap just likes to put on a show on anything I say.
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                              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                              • #30
                                But in order for him to look like the idiot he desires to look like, when the last time a travel agent receieced a call requesting accomodations and tours in Watts? Hell's Kitchen? On and on.
                                Believe it when I tell you they don't compare.
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