CanPol: Race to the Finish

[KrazyHorse]

When I get back to Canada I'll probably give running as an NDP candidate a go in whatever riding I move to...

[Asher]

Maybe I'll vote for this chick:

Juliet Burgess

Party: The Green Party of Canada

Age: 18

Career background: Working to advance skills as a photographer

Community activities: Has been involved in local activism since a young age, including election campaign work with the Green Party. She is also involved as a member of an independent theatre company in Calgary, and volunteers with local human rights organizations

[Asher]

My choices are as follows:

Conservative (have never not elected a conservative MP in my riding...): Incument since 1992, founding member of the reform party, member of the CA/Reform "Family" caucus...

Liberal: Farmer

NDP: Gym Teacher

Green Party: 18 year old girl

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


A few folks I know have spoken about the ruling, but most folks are pretty much blase about this Supreme Court. They seem to do basically whatever they feel is right, regardless of what most Canadians want.

"What most Canadians want" is often impossible to assess and should never be the test for anything when it comes to a court's ruling. The court should rule based on the law, even if most Canadians hate the law in question.

Where the majority gets their say ( in theory) is in the writing of the laws in the first place

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Ninot


Now I'm not lawyer, but I think thats the essence of what Judges are supposed to do: what's right, not neccesarily what's popular.

THis is not quite correct either. Techically a judge is supposed to apply the law as it is written even if he does not feel it is "right" ( assuming no Charter violations)

But the reality is that if they were explained , 95% of the people would agree with 95% of court decisions 95% of the time

[Flubber]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Not predicted. Wondered about. I wondered if it could be an issue for the Tories to use. They haven't and, quite frankly, I can't complain about Harper's campaign.

I do believe that there is room to criticize the decision, and it is being talked about. Someone on the radio just this morning was wondering about the combination of sex in public establishments with age of consent at 14...

BTW, was there a particular reason why you wanted to reignite this?

Reignite?? wow I never thought our previous discussion was anything other than cool and dispassionate

No particular reason-- I just watched the debate and read the paper today and remembered that you believed there would be a backlash on the issue. I haven't seenone and wondered if you had. Just curious . . . nothing sinister

[Flubber]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
When I get back to Canada I'll probably give running as an NDP candidate a go in whatever riding I move to...

Since there is evidence you have a pulse, that desire may be sufficient ( well for about half the ridings in the country)

[KrazyHorse]

I'm also going to have a respectable job by then and be a fairly articulate man in his late 20s to early 30s.

I don't mind standing as a sacrificial lamb...

[Asher]

You got them weird eyes, it'll never fly!

[Flubber]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
I'm also going to have a respectable job by then and be a fairly articulate man in his late 20s to early 30s.

I don't mind standing as a sacrificial lamb...

I even voted for one of those NDP sacrificial lambs in a no-hope riding. I knew the guy and just gave him a vote because he was/is a real good guy and everyone including himself knew that getting 10% of the vote would be a major upset

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Asher
I think his point was everyone else was saying "this isn't a big deal" and you basically made the point that Harper could ride this issue to victory.

I wondered if it could be an issue, and then I had some help in starting a brawl.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Flubber

Reignite?? wow I never thought our previous discussion was anything other than cool and dispassionate

No particular reason-- I just watched the debate and read the paper today and remembered that you believed there would be a backlash on the issue. I haven't seenone and wondered if you had. Just curious . . . nothing sinister

I believe there is a growing backlash against 'liberalism' on this issue and many others.

Smuggled guns used to shoot a teenager in Toronto? Ban guns! Good idea, Paul. Ban people from owning guns who are already under severe restrictions in their storage, transport, and use. Meanwhile, anyone can drive over a country road into Canada from the largest weapons market in the world...

Age of consent for sex with a child is 14. 40 year olds can get it on, and it's all legal. Now it would be legal in a locked room in a licensed business. These weren't Liberal initiatives, but they happened under their watch and it is part of the landscape that has a lot of people unhappy with how things are being run.

Judges giving conditional sentences for serious crimes, or allowing a known criminal access to guns, which ended up in a dead cop. Courts that don't keep dangerous people out of circulation for any length of time that could be judged as reasonable, which resulted in 4 dead Mounties. A government that is so afraid of guns that armed border guards are a no-no, while a flood of illegal guns cross that border and are used to murder children Christmas shopping with their parents.

People pissed off about overly lax policies on a number of social and criminal issues is as much a part of this election as scandal, if the recent numbers in Quebec and Ontario are to be believed.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Asher
The new Liberal ads are disgusting and shameful to all Canadians.

I'm at the stage where I may just vote, an vote Conservative, just because the Liberal party is showing just how petty they are. That the party is corrupt and criminal is just that much more obvious now.

Soldiers in cities?

[notyoueither]

Anyone who listened to the debates in French care to share their views?

[Asher]

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