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    Terrorist training camps in the US?

    A Palestinian who has become a Swedish citizen was recently arrested in Prague on request by CIA for building a "terrorist training camp" in Ohio. While this makes perfect sense at first glance, you might consider what crime did he really commit?.

    His brother, who also lives in Sweden, wants him released and says "His only crime is that he hates George Bush. Name one Swede who doesn't". The Swedish government hasn't asked for him to be extracted, as he isn't suspected for any crime in Sweden.

    In Sweden, building an underground army is illegal according to several laws, and the crimes are called "high treason", "illegal corps activity", "possession of weapon" and similar. Those laws have been enforced to stop neo-nazis recently. But this guy performed his supposed crimes in the US, so Swedish laws don't apply.

    But I guess the laws and culture in USA are very different. Building an underground army isn't illegal, it's actually encouraged by the constitution, right? Or why do all those local militias exist? Possessing guns is highly encouraged and some people even have machine guns "to protect themselves against the government".

    I have not enough information to make a judgement in this particular case, but it raises some general questions:

    What is a terrorist training camp and what makes it illegal to set up in the US?

    - A paintball arena?
    - An assault rifle shooting range?
    - A steeplechase court?
    - A muslim Koran school?
    - A combination of the above?
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    The only difference would be in the ethnic makeup of the group, and the agenda of the government at the time.

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    • #3
      Also the stated intentions of the organization/facility. Most shooting ranges neither talk about or actively engage in the overthrough of the US government by force.

      Alot of militias get in trouble because they go too far with rhetoric, actual threatd of violence against individuals and such.
      "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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      • #4
        If he's advocating the use of terrorism or supporting people who do then he deserves to spend the rest of his days being ass raped in prison.
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          Believe it or not it's illegal in the U.S. to form an armed (private) group and undertake military training.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sikander
              Believe it or not it's illegal in the U.S. to form an armed (private) group and undertake military training.
              So a hunting club and paintball club are OK, but combining them gets you jailtime?
              I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"

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              • #8
                You'd rather have the terrorists outsourcing their training to third world countries who pay less than American terrorist camps?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Starchild
                  You'd rather have the terrorists outsourcing their training to third world countries who pay less than American terrorist camps?
                  So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
                  Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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                  • #10
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                    • #11
                      I think it's a good idea to have training camps in the U.S. That way we can keep a closer eye on them.

                      Although it'd make more sense for the terrorists to have the training camps in the Nevada desert, or some other remote desert. It's kind of hard to do things in Ohio without being noticed.

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