Well, it's that time in my life where I've got to start thinking about staving off...

[Az]

it actually depends on who you are.

I can drop 10 pounds a month, easy. But I am slightly bigger than normal people

[Last Conformist]

Women's mags here tout "miracle" diets that will make you lose 5kg a month.

[Pekka]

yeah, 10 pounds is absolutely fantastic result. That's what I'm doing jan-feb. Basically, losign weight comes down to science where 10 pounds a month is almost the most best result you should go for, not a lot faster, or if it goes slower, then figure what's done wrong.

10 pounds a month means if you do everything right, you're not burning your muscle, you're basically doing it the healthy way.

Dump pasta, sandwiches, or if you want to keep eating thme, then work out regularly. Those babies got so much carbs that you should look into mixing it up a little.

[Pekka]

LC, 5kg in month is totally good pace. But not with 'miracle diets'. Combined work out and proper nutrition, you should be somewhere near 1 kg per week. Depending of course where you start.

[Last Conformist]

I was just mentioning it as an example of what's considered rapid weight loss.

I'm not interested in losing weight myself - my ribs are quite sufficiently visible already.

[Pekka]

Right, right, and 1 kg per week is, what I consider the optimal result, that is combined work from hard workout, and very proper nutrition. Basically meaning you do everything right, not like most dieters do. You know, there's always things you can do better, but most just try to change their diet a little, eat less (WRONG), workout a little more.. I meant when you take it seriously and break it down to science like a superman, 1kg a week is optimal in my mind.

10 pounds a month is excellent. Anyone who loses faster consistently, I'd be worried.

[Az]

I knew a guy who lost 35kg during the summer. He had stomache problems for a couple of months, but then got right. Totally worth it, really.

But most chances are, you won't be able to pull it off, so the safe way, which is only slightly slower is better.

[Pekka]

1kg per week is optimal, period . That's what most doctors would say to you.

Losing fast shouldn't be the goal. It's just not good. Not to say, Az, that your friend did it wrong. But that shouldn't be taken as proper example by any means.

If you want to lose weight fast, I suggest you do heroin for .. two weeks, and then switch to amphetamines. You'll lose weight.

[Az]

no no - the best way is THIS.

[Pekka]

oh hey that's cool. That looks like exotic adventure to many. To me that looks like 'Oh ****, another desert'.

You can do it on speed though.. get yourself a nice heart pumping thing going on .. maybe heat stroke! This reminds me, regular clubbing with dancing and lots of drugs is also good for losing weight.


If you are seriously thinking about north pole expeditions, you don't need to go that far. I suggest you join some of our troops in the north, some kind of special jaegar thing, or border things.. you'll get to drag lots of **** with skis, and sweat, and scream to the sky and nature why you want to kill yourself and no one hears you, so you can just bite your lip and bleed whiel continuing the 'cool trek'.

Get little brain freeze going on, hopefully lose a toe or two

[Jon Miller]

not really 10 pounds a month

10 pounds over the course of being good, whether it is 1 month or 3..

and what does everyone else eat?

the only things I can think that I am slim on is salad and fruit.. but I get some fresh veggies in sandwiches and fruit in juice...

and my daily caloric entake, when I am not eating out (hard to tell at many restaurants) or snacking is sub 2200

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

my weight gain and loss is also weird

nothing will happen for a month or more (if I am being good), then my weight will drop by 10 pounds over the course of a week

or I will be bad for a week, and my weight will increase by 10 pounds (ok, that makes more sense)..

JM
(but I am not that bad.. by bad I mean intaking maybe 1000 more calories then I should a day for half the days in the week)

[Last Conformist]

What I eat? Tons of pasta, plenty of rice, some vegetables and salad, moderate amounts of meat, lots of fatty breakfast cereals, lots of bread and cheese. Plus pizza once a week or so, and varying amounts of beer and snacks.

[Jon Miller]

breakfast cereals I usually eat things like grapenuts or corn-chex

JM

[Dinner]

I need to lose a good 30 pounds.