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**Kassiopeia** · December 14, 2005, 09:21

That you would post something like that? Not really.

**Serb** · December 14, 2005, 09:27

Discuss the movie, not the poster.
How do you explain those facts?

**Serb** · December 14, 2005, 09:32

Hellow, Americans, are you there?

**DinoDoc** · December 14, 2005, 09:34

Originally posted by Serb
How do you explain those facts?

Russians must be really gullible: http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

I have a bridge in New York I'd like to sell you.

**Kassiopeia** · December 14, 2005, 09:38

Originally posted by Serb
Comment the movie, not the poster.

How do you explain those facts?

Fair enough. There was debris, but most of it was incinerated in the fireball that would erupt when all that jet fuel explodes. There was debris on the lawn, the movie just ignored all the pictures with debris (see this page). Most of the debris ended up inside the Pentagon along with the bulk of the mass of the plane, or was incinerated in the aforementioned fireball, or just disintegrated. After all, the images of crash debris were of crashes that happened against landscape, mostly; this time the plane entered a building speficially designed to withstand severe damage. I would encourage some critical reading.

Besides, if the plane didn't hit the Pentagon, where is the plane? Do you have any idea what sort of conspiracy you'd need to get rid of and hide an entire plane full of people? And how hard it would be to keep such a conspiracy secret?

And why would the military need to orchestrate an attack on the Pentagon, when the Pentagon attack resulted in pretty much only the casualties aboard the plane, whereas the WTC strike was more than sufficient to elicit any response the conspirators might desire?

Well, you could have done it in Soviet Russia, maybe...

**Tattila the Hun** · December 14, 2005, 09:56

Re: Pentagon strike.

Originally posted by Serb

http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/swf/pentagon_en.swf

Shoking, isn't it?

No. We all know it was CIA, aided by martians and ninjas.

Seriously, where in internet have you been for the past 4 years? That's been going around for who knows how long, and debunked and ridiculed, along with whoever posts it, on every site in the known 'Net.

Assuming it is the one with horrible music and Adolf speaking something about jewish conspiracy...

**Arrian** · December 14, 2005, 10:16

It's Serb, what do you expect?

-Arrian

**OzzyKP** · December 14, 2005, 11:11

Someone I know from Germany who came to visit the US first showed me that video, and he was dead serious about it. Its amazing just how much people hate Americans that they believe any crackpot conspiracy like this that fits their skewed worldview. Sad really.

btw, the video I watched (assuming it is the same one) was pretty damn cool, albeit horribly misguided.

**Sava** · December 14, 2005, 11:34

Serb

**OneFootInTheGrave** · December 14, 2005, 11:53

and I thought that people in Pentagon went on strike, and it hit me as unusual for them to be unionized.

**Richelieu** · December 14, 2005, 11:57

That's what happens when you don't build cottages early in the game.

Research currency!

**Pekka** · December 14, 2005, 12:10

This video was stupid. It was nice with the what is fight club track though.. it's funny how with these, everyone on the internet becomes scientist, aviation expert, military expert etc.

What thsi video showed was few pics from outside the yard, bad quality pics. Where's the plane? It got fudged up! Where did thousands of gallons of petrol go? That's pretty obvious.

The funniest part was 'PLANES LEAVE WRECK!11' adn then they showed Pentagon with a huge **** off hole in it 'NO WRECK!11'. Like yeah you could fit 6 planes there and not see it from here and like this. Plus I guess it wasn't intact when it blew up there.

If someone suggests conspiracy, then we must also think why Pentagon. So US can wage wars? Hey, they didn't even need Pentagon for that anymore. Besides, Pentagon never was an issue, it was kept low key, WTC was an issue.

Also, it strikes me pretty odd as why someone would hit their own defense place, in order to use it later on for something else. Unless they wanted to kill the workers of that whole section for like no reason at all.

IN short, that video is not shocking to me.

**JohnT** · December 14, 2005, 12:27

The best 9/11 conspiracy theory was revealed to me a couple of weeks ago on this very board.

See, the WTC didn't collapse because planes hit it, sending thousands of gallons of exploding jet fuel inside, igniting all the papers/carpets etc, causing the steel to weaken.

No, it collapsed because the CIA had secretly wired the buildings with squibs, and detonated them on 9/11 because they didn't want... something... to be found.

**JohnT** · December 14, 2005, 12:30

Controlled Demolition most Likely brought down the WTC.