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The problem with Ford was never their interior design, but their nature to fall apart after the warranty.Originally posted by Verto
Have you seen a new 2005/2006 Ford? They are a complete turnaround from the past. Huge improvements in the interior design, on top of everything else.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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2006 Ford Explorer - no problemOriginally posted by Asher
The problem with Ford was never their interior design, but their nature to fall apart after the warranty.
2003 Ford Expedition - problem with side panels, caused by automatic car wash. Replaced by dealership.
2002 Ford Escape - no problem.
2002 Ford Explorer - no problem
2001 Ford Expedition - no problem
1993 Ford Van - no problem, with 100k+ miles. A/C began to lose coldness a month or so before it was traded in for the '01 Expedition. Also, brakes never once had to be replaced.
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More protectionism needed. Ban the Japanese from selling cars in America!Comment
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That's funny, because my uncle (who works in QC at the Ford plant in St. Thomas, Ontario that makes Crown Vics an Police Interceptors) has had no shortage of problems with his F150, his song's Mustang, and his wife's Windstar.Originally posted by Verto
2006 Ford Explorer - no problem
2003 Ford Expedition - problem with side panels, caused by automatic car wash. Replaced by dealership.
2002 Ford Escape - no problem.
2002 Ford Explorer - no problem
2001 Ford Expedition - no problem
1993 Ford Van - no problem, with 100k+ miles. A/C began to lose coldness a month or so before it was traded in for the '01 Expedition. Also, brakes never once had to be replaced.
And my friends with Ford cars (which were usually ~10 year old used cars) with issues.
And the fact that I've already had to get a part replaced on my car (Mazda 3 Sport), which was...a Ford part (window switch in the back)."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Just like they forced us to improve our consumer electronics industry?Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
The Japanese will force us to improve our auto industry eventually.
"I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George CarlinComment
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iPod.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Xbox too.KH FOR OWNER!
ASHER FOR CEO!!
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DO YOU WANT FRIES WITH THAT!??!?!Originally posted by JohnT
I'm still not too sure what the solutions you or Sloww are proposing, Sava. Mind telling me what good "high paying union jobs" are if the companies can't afford them?
To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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The U.S. simply can't compete with the rest of the world.Comment
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iPodWell, yes. But remember when we used to make TVs -- lots of themm aybe even most of them? And stereo equipment, too? We've gone from that to bragging about one brand of mp3 player and one brand of gaming console? Woo-hoo!Xbox too
Not that I really care who makes the stuff. I'm just suggesting that if we're looking to Japanese competition to remake our own auto industry, it will -- and soon, we'll eb bragging about the two cars we still produce in America."I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George CarlinComment
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the F150 is the most sold 'car' in the worldOriginally posted by Zopperoni
The Japanese do make better cars. I still find it a bit peculiar though. Isn't the Ford F-150 the best-sold vehicle in the US?
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But remember when we used to make TVs -- lots of themm aybe even most of them? And stereo equipment, too?
Not really. I do remember when the Japanese dominated the portable music and video game console markets, though...KH FOR OWNER!
ASHER FOR CEO!!
GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!Comment
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I don't think it's a good analogy. Take TVs, for instance. Most of the high tech TVs are built using DLP technology owned by Texas Instruments. These DLP chips are fabbed in the USA. The premier video processing chips for these TVs are fabbed by Sage in the USA. The digital TV receiver chips for these TVs are fabbed by several companies in the USA. The chips are then handed off for PCB printing and assembly into a TV in the Philipines or wherever. A lot of these parts are sold to the Japanese for them to use to make their own brands.
If you're talking about those $50 el-cheapo TVs with a $10 mail-in rebate, OK maybe none of those are made with American parts. But you're fooling yourself if you think the Chinese are making much profit off of those.
I'll think you'll find Sloww is very well acquainted with how this works...Last edited by DanS; December 6, 2005, 00:49.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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It's good to see Texas instruments still around.
But I still remember when I was a kid, they used to have a lot of electronic equipment. In fact, I still have my Ti-81. Too bad it doesn't work anymore. And when I was real little, they used to make speak and spell and all those electronic gadgets.
I'm going to post the picture. I have fond memories of this thing. Though I don't think I learned much from it. Diss getting teary eyed remembering the heyday of U.S. manufacturing.
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