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We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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OMFG teh CIA conspiracy!!!!!1111eleven1Originally posted by techumseh Your "transparency index" is based on the opinions of business types and country analists ie. big biz and the CIA. Wake up!"The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de BottonComment
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OK, that was a bit over the top. Sorry.Comment
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I didn't realize there were so many chavez supporters here. I'm neither for or against him and don't really care if he helps the people there or not, I'm just curious how far you all will take your support of him. This will be interesting to watch cause my guess is he will continue to stretch legitmacy and it will be entertaining indeed to watch how they are explained here
Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul TighComment
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Dude, you already killed the thread, you don't have to Godwinize it again.Originally posted by snoopy369
I've seen this before. 1933, Germany ... for example...Comment
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I think it's fairly obvious that Chavez is very popular in Venezuela. There is no reason to rig an election there.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Chavez won fair, the oligarchs saw they were going to lose the election and retired to damage the legitimacy of the process, Chavez would have won even had they presented their candidates.I need a foot massageComment
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lets see Chavezs party and its allies won every single seat. That beats Perv, who in his last legislative election had supporting parties win less than 50% of the seats.
Oh, and the turnout was 25%. How low does the turnout have to be for a boycott to be successful, anyway? I mean this makes Sunni Arab turnout in Iraq look respectable."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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75% of the electorate is oligarchs?Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
Chavez won fair, the oligarchs saw they were going to lose the election and retired to damage the legitimacy of the process, Chavez would have won even had they presented their candidates."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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And he's the first winning politician who isn't a member of the oligarchal class. He's not particularly radical, although he portrays himself as being such. Basically, he's just a New Dealer. That looks radical in Latin America, which has generally been organized around the principle that 15% of the population screws over everyone else. I'd take any sort of change over the previous 50 years of crap.He is a savy, charismatic populist leader who has the courage to act for the poor and to stand up to the traditional bully of the region.
Whatever you think of him, the Venezuelans seem to like him. There's no reason to think that the vote wasn't legitimate, and the same goes for the last US election.Only feebs vote.Comment
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so is he going reliberalize the press law?Originally posted by Kidicious
I think it's fairly obvious that Chavez is very popular in Venezuela. There is no reason to rig an election there."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Bingo. The boycott was all about making sure that thier "the majority actually supports us" meme was protected so they can legitimize any coup they hatch against Chavez.Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
Chavez won fair, the oligarchs saw they were going to lose the election and retired to damage the legitimacy of the process, Chavez would have won even had they presented their candidates.Comment
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