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You misread me. I would be all for killing NASA. 
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I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891 -
They should be forced to read Dragon's Egg by Robert l Forward.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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We would still need a government space program to study and explre things the private sector would not find profitable in the short term, and would thus be ignored.Originally posted by DanS
You misread me. I would be all for killing NASA.
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NASA has a good role in doing scientificresearch and space exploration. Currently profitable industries like launch vehicles and satellites are only viable today because governments pioneered such activities.
It would be a shame if the EU once again fell back on its protectionist tendencies since the big losers would be consumers and companies which need safe, affordable, and reliable launch vehicles. In the long run competition will spur growth in the industry.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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The only reason that launch vehicles are profitable right now is because the government guarantees the profit. SpaceX doesn't have such subsidies, however.Currently profitable industries like launch vehiclesI came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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From Dan's article above.Although the commercial market for space activities has witnessed a sharp decline in recent years, public expenditure on space is on the increase.
We're on the verge of a new era of space exploration - driven by governments, as usual.Comment
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The commercial market for space activities (satellites) is very cyclical and volatile. Next year, we could be saying the opposite.
Also, even if the governments spend $x tens of billions, the more interesting stuff will be coming out of the $x hundreds of millions spent by the commercial folks.Last edited by DanS; December 4, 2005, 13:40.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Here's the current pathetic state of the US space launch market. We've come to this place by having a system that was too communist for the communists. (I did not draft this graph, but can vouch for its accuracy.)Attached FilesI came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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In other words, graph "is real".
Anyway, interesting comparison.
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So all the government had on the island before then was a radar range?Originally posted by DanS
The launch pad was constructed by the company and logistics were done by the company (as you can see, before the company got there, the only thing on Omelek island was a heliport, a rudimentary dock, and some endangered species
). This is the first orbital rocket to fly from the Reagan Test Site, so the range didn't provide any fuel, etc. However, range safety and radar are done by the range, which is part of the Army.
No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.Comment
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The radar is on another island (Kwajalein), but yes, the infrastructure on Omelek was very minimal, as can be seen from the 3rd picture that I posted. I don't think Omelek itself had been used for decades.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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The launch is back on for Monday, with a launch window starting at 2:00 pm Eastern.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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The C17 that delivered the liquid oxygen to nearby Kwajalein (13 miles away) buzzes the rocket sitting on its pad at Omelek...Attached FilesI came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Let's hope they can get it up this time. I mean tomorrow; judging from the picture they've already gotten it up. I'll shut up now.
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Launch attempt Scrubbed! Leak in the first stage full tank that will require repair.
They'll try again after the holidays.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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