Reuters: Rumsfeld May be Target of New Grand Jury

[Dinner]

No sooner does Drake begen spewing Fox New's line about "Republican Pushbacks" and claim the CIA leak investigation is finished then we have the next twist in the investigation.
Keep up the good work Drake.

Reuters: Rumsfeld May be Target of New Grand Jury

According to Reuters, Woodward's source wasn't Cheney or Hadley - Rumsfeld is the one top Administration official who hasn't issued a denial. Also, Rove is still a focus of the inquiry. See, below.

CIA Leak Prosecutor Will Involve a New Grand Jury
Patrick Fitzgerald's Filing Says 'the Investigation Is Continuing'

WASHINGTON (Nov. 19) - In a sign he may seek new or revised charges in the CIA leak case, special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald said on Friday his investigation would be going back before a grand jury.
It was the first time Fitzgerald said he would be presenting information to another grand jury since the indictment and resignation three weeks ago of Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

Lawyers in the case said the investigation into who leaked the identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame, which has reached into the highest levels of the White House, could be moving into a new phase that could result in charges against other top administration officials. President George W. Bush's top political adviser, Karl Rove, was told by prosecutors last month that he remained under investigation and could still be charged, lawyers said.

Fitzgerald may also be pursuing new leads following Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward's disclosure that he was told about Plame in mid-June 2003.

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"The investigation will involve proceedings before a different grand jury than the grand jury which returned the indictment" against Libby, Fitzgerald said in a court motion, which spelled out a compromise with media organizations for access to some documents in the Libby case.

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While people close to Rove sought to play down the implications, a lawyer involved in the leak case said, "It can't make Rove feel good." "He (Fitzgerald) can supersede the Libby grand jury (indictment) to include other crimes or other people," the lawyer said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the investigation was ongoing.

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Woodward's sworn deposition sparked renewed speculation about who first leaked Plame's identity, and sent Bush administration officials scrambling to deny involvement.

A lawyer in the case said Woodward's source had not previously testified before a grand jury in the leak case. Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman would not answer directly whether Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was Woodward's source.

White House national security adviser Stephen Hadley, with Bush at an Asia-Pacific summit in Pusan, South Korea, left it to aides to put out the word that he was not the source.

Neither was Cheney nor Bush, according to current and former officials and their lawyers, none of whom would agree to be identified.

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20051118121109990006&ncid=NWS00010000000001

[Dinner]

More and more people are going to have to admit that if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and has feathers that it is a duck. The CIA leak case is looking exactly what everyone (other then right wingers) have said it was; a coordinated campaign to get revenge on a a person who pointed out holes in the administrations WMD claims. This isn't surprising given how vindictive this administration has been & how they always coordinate themselves through talking points. The leak case was coordinated from the top down and most of the Bush Administration big whigs were in on it to one degree or another just like they're all coordinating on messages like "stay the course, denying they're liars about WMD, and most other things.

[Edan]

Re: Reuters: Rumsfeld May be Target of New Grand Jury

Rumsfeld is the one top Administration official who hasn't issued a denial.

Rumsfeld says he was not Woodward's source

[DinoDoc]

Boom! Headshot!

[Ted Striker]

"Sometimes laying down that cover fire is more important than getting the headshot."

[MrFun]

Let's hear it for Drake, and those other Repu . . . . . er, independent voters.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Boom! Headshot!

You mean Rumsfield responding to the Reuter's article is a head shot? Strange world you live in. It will be nice when this liar also is indicted.

[The Mad Monk]

Sources of Confusion
The Plame drama thickens, as Washington once again tries to guess who Bob Woodward's been talking to

By Evan Thomas and Michael Isikoff
Newsweek

Nov. 28, 2005 issue - Who was Bob Novak's source? It's a parlor game any Washington insider or media junkie can play—and most do. Novak, a conservative columnist sometimes called "the Prince of Darkness," was the journalist who kicked off the whole Valerie Plame imbroglio that has obsessed Washington and so far resulted in the indictment of Vice President Dick Cheney's former top aide, Scooter Libby, for perjury. It was Novak who identified Plame as the CIA operative who helped send her husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson, to Africa to check on reports that Iraq was trying to buy uranium from the country of Niger. Depending on whom you believe, the leak was (1) an insidious smear by the White House to retaliate against a critic of the Iraq war or (2) mildly interesting gossip.

The game became more intriguing last week when the legendary Washington Post investigative reporter Bob Woodward was dragged in. Woodward revealed that he had been told about Plame and her role before Novak had, but that in order to protect his source and avoid a subpoena from the grand jury, he had told no one, not even his editor, Leonard Downie. Woodward's admission, along with an unusual apology, set off a wave of journalistic clucking among news organizations, including his own. Woodward has long been an object of envy and resentment because he has been free to absent himself from The Washington Post newsroom while he reports his megaselling books.

But more than journalistic schadenfreudewas at stake. Though he gave testimony to the special prosecutor, Woodward refused to publicly identify his source. But he has repeatedly emphasized on talk shows and in interviews that when all the facts become known, the Plame affair will be seen as much ado about very little. In private conversations with journalists, Novak has suggested the same.

So who is Novak's source—and Woodward's source—and why will his identity take the wind out of the brewing storm? One by one last week, a parade of current and former senior officials, including the CIA's George Tenet and national-security adviser Stephen Hadley, denied being the source. A conspicuous exception was former deputy secretary of State Richard Armitage, whose office would only say, "We're not commenting." He was one of a handful of top officials who had access to the information. He is an old source and friend of Woodward's, and he fits Novak's description of his source as "not a partisan gunslinger." Woodward has indicated that he knows the identity of Novak's source, which further suggests his source and Novak's were one and the same.

If Armitage was the original leaker, that undercuts the argument that outing Plame was a plot by the hard-liners in the veep's office to "out" Plame. Armitage was, if anything, a foe of the neocons who did not want to go to war in Iraq. He had no motive to discredit Wilson. On "Larry King Live" last month, Woodward was dismissive of the special prosecutor's investigation, suggesting that the original leak was not the result of a "smear campaign" but rather a "kind of gossip, as chatter ... I don't see an underlying crime here."

That doesn't mean special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald will fold his tent. Last week he announced he would present evidence to a new grand jury. While Scooter Libby's lawyers exulted that Woodward's revelation helped their client's case, Libby still faces strong evidence that he lied to the Feds. And it's not clear that White House deputy chief of staff Karl Rove is out of the woods. When and if the true identity of Novak and Woodward's source becomes known (if indeed they are one in the same), the two-year-old mystery may be resolved. But the game is not over yet.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10117465/site/newsweek/

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Oerdin
You mean Rumsfield responding to the Reuter's article is a head shot?

Your idiotic assumption based on out of date information and running with it was amusing.

[Drake Tungsten]

No sooner does Drake begen spewing Fox New's line about "Republican Pushbacks"

I made a thread about an ongoing media push by the White House and Republican party. I didn't say I supported it; I only asked who would be the next target and whether it would work. Clearly the work of an RNC operative...

claim the CIA leak investigation is finished then we have the next twist in the investigation.

I never claimed it was finished. I said that there were rumors that Rove was off the hook (which seems to be the case) and that I thought that the whole investigation was unimportant (which I'd been saying for a long time).

I'm flattered to have become your arch-nemesis, though.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
and that I thought that the whole investigation was unimportant (which I'd been saying for a long time).

You really have a tin ear for politics then. The investigation is like Whitewater, a running sore just waiting to explode at some point.

[Drake Tungsten]

You really have a tin ear for politics then. The investigation is like Whitewater, a running sore just waiting to explode at some point.

I guess we'll see. Maybe those of us with the tin ears for politics (me, Woodward, Novak) will be proven wrong...

[Admiral]

The Times thinks that Woodward's source is Stephen Hadley, National Security Adviser. Who knows what they know (and the advantage/disadvantage of being overseas is that their reporters can't be part of the investigation). That being said...

Maybe those of us with the tin ears for politics (me, Woodward, Novak) will be proven wrong...

Funny group of people to mention. Neither Woodward nor Novak can even pretend to be impartial to this investigation. They can go and say all they want, but at the end of the day, they are the characters, not the commentators, in this story. That alone diminishes their credibility.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Your idiotic assumption based on out of date information and running with it was amusing.

Rumsfield was asked to comment on the charge and that's when he said it wasn't him. How is that idiotic? You've been drinking draino again.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

No sooner does Drake begen spewing Fox New's line about "Republican Pushbacks"

I made a thread about an ongoing media push by the White House and Republican party. I didn't say I supported it; I only asked who would be the next target and whether it would work. Clearly the work of an RNC operative...

claim the CIA leak investigation is finished then we have the next twist in the investigation.

I never claimed it was finished. I said that there were rumors that Rove was off the hook (which seems to be the case) and that I thought that the whole investigation was unimportant (which I'd been saying for a long time).

I'm flattered to have become your arch-nemesis, though.

You kept saying it played out and there was nothing there. You were practically giddy wit reassurance from what you heard at what ever right wing nutjob site you visit. Flash" You were wrong... AGAIN.