A different Iraq poll: How much is "completing the mission" worth to YOU?

[Odin]

Originally posted by Agathon
I'm willing to lose a limb to see the USA in flames.

the people who live here would like to disagree. Sorry, I ain't willing to give the #1 spot to China as long as it's still an undemocratic police state.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Agathon
I'm willing to lose a limb to see the USA in flames.

Which head? I'll be there with a cleaver, but no guarantees on the pyrotechnics.

[Max Webster]

I really don't have a clue whats going over there. Except I hear just about every day or so something or somebody getting blown up or shot.

Some americans are saying they are making progress, some say they aren't.

Who do you believe?

[notyoueither]

There's no 'kill the other sad son of a ***** before he kills you' option.

[MichaeltheGreat]

That's the basic job description, but since we don't have adequate security zones and we posture as an occupation force rather than a combat force, you're more likely to have the floor of your vehicle shoved up your ass than you are to be able to do much else.

[Ted Striker]

I don't think Preperation-H is very good at handling vehicle floor in the ass problems.

[Max Webster]

Damn that sounds painful.

[PLATO]

This poll is based on a single-minded premise. It takes no consideration for the implications of not completing the mission. Weather or not, this is a valid point to be contemplated is up to the individual. Further, The results of an "incomplete" mission are vastly debatable as well.

However, as the premise for this poll is questionable at best, it is not one I will vote in.

To explain a bit further...If "completing" the mission means that the likelyhood of having a terrorist incident that kills my son is greatly reduced vs. an "incomplete" mission meaning that he would mostlikely be killed by a terrorist, then you are damn right that I would die to prevent that. If "completing" the mission means that we just end up with a different dictator in Iraq and nothing really changes vs. an "incomplete" mission meaning we just end up with a different dictator in Iraq and nothing really changes then we should get the hell out now. Without a distinction on what the mission is and what can realistically be accomplished then this poll has no value.

Further, the debate on the mission and the possible results continues...with many varying opinions. "Opinions" being an operative word. This further adds to the invalidity of the poll.

Perhaps if a provisio were added to state.."If we could accomplish 'X' then would you be willing to...." That would be a valid polling.

[Az]

Hey, Michael, what's up? You haven't been around the forums seriously for ages, have you? welcome back.


To the point:

The question is completely hypothetical - there is no way a single person's actions could secure the "completion of the mission" - presumably a safe and 'democratic' iraq - by paying up with their limbs or lives.

but if I could ensure peace and freedom in Iraq by myself, I would take a bullet.

[VetLegion]

but if I could ensure peace and freedom in Iraq by myself, I would take a bullet.

Take a bullet where?

[:) Smiley]

That was 2 1/2 years ago.

The consequence of completing missions only seems to be more missions.

[Az]

Take a bullet where?

In a place that kills.

[VetLegion]

Let's try to clarify that: you would be willing to die for a foreign country to achieve peace? Why?

[Az]

Why not? It's a helluva better way to die than of a heart attack at 80. Most chances are that I will not be able to accomplish a deed of similar importance in my life otherwise.

And no, I am not some sort of hero. Ordinary people ( which are always the real heroes ) jumped on bullets and grenades to save a small bunch of people - and died in anonymity for centuries. Taking a bullet to save an entire country ( even in anonymity ) is a much easier choice.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Az
Why not? It's a helluva better way to die than of a heart attack at 80.

No it isn't. Only the young overlook the value of having a long, full and happy life.