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    Cop killing

    BBC NEWS | UK | England | Bradford | Woman Pc shot on child's birthday
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/4451508.stm
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    According to the article the UK appears to be running at less than one police officer a year being killed in the line of duty. That seems remarkably low, and makes it headline news when it does happen.

    I guess it typified in the fact that I thought the headline Vow to 'track down' Pc's killer was actually a reference to a murder perpetrated by an internet freak or some other obscure reference.

    What's the rate of death in the US (which I presume is relatively high due to drug and gun crime) and elsewhere?
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    It must be because our bobbies are actually ninjas
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      About 150 cops are killed each year in the line of duty in the US. That includes cops getting into accidents, though.
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        I recieve dual signals about British coppers. On one hand, they are unarmed and only about 1 is killed on duty each year. On the other hand, when they get nervous, they can easily shoot an innocent guy in the head 5-10 times without even getting a restriction. Or was that the SAS disguised as Bobbies?
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        • #5
          5-10 times with exploding bullets last time I heard

          understandably these unfortunate incidents are few and far between
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          • #6
            It makes headline news here in the US, too.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DanS
              About 150 cops are killed each year in the line of duty in the US. That includes cops getting into accidents, though.
              Not trolling here ok.

              Somehow I expected that number to be (much) higher.

              Bad television...bad...bad television!!!

              No idea on the situation is in Belgium, every murder is a main topic on national news here, so I'd say the number is pretty low.
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              • #8
                yeah not that many are killed. And it doesn't really make national news when one is killed. But it will dominate local news for a while.

                I can't even remember the last time a cop was killed (murdered I should say- I'm not including accidents) in the line of duty in my city. And my city isn't a peaceful city. We used to be run by the mafia.

                How many times the population of England is the U.S.? It may work out to be the same ratio. Or maybe the U.S. is a little higher. Not bad considering how many guns are out there.

                And most of the incidents of guys firing at cops are actually suicide by cop ploys. Guys who don't have the guts to kill themselves, so they point a gun and sometimes shoot at cops.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by alva


                  Not trolling here ok.

                  Somehow I expected that number to be (much) higher.

                  Bad television...bad...bad television!!!

                  No idea on the situation is in Belgium, every murder is a main topic on national news here, so I'd say the number is pretty low.
                  No offense taken.

                  Why would you think the bad guys are so stupid as to start plinking cops?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DanS


                    No offense taken.

                    Why would you think the bad guys are so stupid as to start plinking cops?
                    probably listening to too many rap music lyrics.

                    Although the most notable song isn't rap (despite what the stupid media called it). Body Count- cop killer. Excellent song. . But it's not rap. Just because Ice-T is singing it doesn't make it rap. It was annoying having to look in the rap music section of music stores to find Body Count albums.

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                    • #11
                      Killing cops is pretty rare here as well, and is front page news. My guess is that the rate is about the same as in Britain, maybe twice that.
                      The same thing must be said for cops shooting suspects. Cops rarely shoot to kill. Even the guy who murdered Theo van Gogh was only shot in the leg, and he shot to kill cops, hoping for a martyrs-death.
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                      • #12
                        One Asian, two black guys...dear oh dear.


                        Last 2 killings of Police I know of, one was by that American **** from Florida and the other by that Algerian caught up in the Ricin plot in Manchester.

                        Alot of people up here in Yorkshire are pretty angry about these shootings, does not do "community relations" any good whatsoever.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DanS
                          About 150 cops are killed each year in the line of duty in the US. That includes cops getting into accidents, though.
                          I guess this means -- arguments by the NRA aside -- a gun-totin' population isn't necessarily a safer population.

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                          • #14
                            i think it's safe to assume that a number of british police get killed each year in the line of duty in car crashs and other accidents, though i don't have any statistics on this.

                            the comparison should be the number of police murdered in the line of duty each year.
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                            • #15
                              I would have thought the US figure higher than 150 a year, but that is probably more than correct.

                              According to this site, since its inception, 701 officers of the NYPD have been killed, and it probably has always been the biggest department in the United States.

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