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    1-0 Democracy vs police state

    I started a thread a while back on the uk governments potentialy draconian ID cards. Strangely that thread is now no-where to be found

    anyway latest bits of good news on all this can be found here:

    BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | Ex-MI5 chief sparks ID card row
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4444512.stm
    BBC, News, BBC News, news online, world, uk, international, foreign, british, online, service


    Its hearting to find that the so called 'out of touch' part of our democratic process that is the house of lords voted this bill down. So a for the wigs and landed gentry.

    I wonder if Tony Blair will try to further dissolve the powers of the house of lords after this defeat of his agenda? or maybe he'll read the writting on the wall - that for the most part british people dont want a shiny new labour police state to live under thanks
    'The very basis of the liberal idea – the belief of individual freedom is what causes the chaos' - William Kristol, son of the founder of neo-conservitivism, talking about neo-con ideology and its agenda for you.info here. prove me wrong.

    Bush's Republican=Neo-con for all intent and purpose. be afraid.
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    Being filmed 24 hours a day is A-OK but cards are a bridge too far?
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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    • #3
      Yes.
      One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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        I never get that... Why are Euros so afraid of ID cards?
        Monkey!!!

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        • #5
          Identity cards are very useful, I would not be able to prove my existence to anyone else otherwise
          "An archaeologist is the best husband a women can have; the older she gets, the more interested he is in her." - Agatha Christie
          "Non mortem timemus, sed cogitationem mortis." - Seneca

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          • #6
            Japher, they're not, the Euros have them. Its the Anglos that are the problem.
            One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Japher
              I never get that... Why are Euros so afraid of ID cards?
              Hey we're not all like the british!!!!
              "An archaeologist is the best husband a women can have; the older she gets, the more interested he is in her." - Agatha Christie
              "Non mortem timemus, sed cogitationem mortis." - Seneca

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DinoDoc
                Being filmed 24 hours a day is A-OK but cards are a bridge too far?
                It's ok being filmed if they don't know who you are!
                Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                We've got both kinds

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DinoDoc
                  Being filmed 24 hours a day is A-OK but cards are a bridge too far?
                  good god they have cameras in my house? In my BATHROOM? I was going to have my monthly shower, but now I'm not so sure now...

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                  • #10
                    Lately I've been seeing the benefits of the House of Lords more and more. It's useful to have a delaying mechanism that's not directly tied into the whims of the electorate or the current government.
                    Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
                    -Richard Dawkins

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                    • #11
                      And if the price is that a few toffs get to torture a few more foxes for a few more months, taint the end of the world!

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                      • #12
                        Possible solution: filmed ID cards!
                        Blah

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                        • #13
                          I don't mind cameras in public places or national ID cards.

                          In fact, I think they might be good security measures if implemented properly.
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #14
                            it's ok as long as you like people with fake passports exploding themselves in your mass transit system
                            I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

                            Asher on molly bloom

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                            • #15
                              at least you'll get it on tape!
                              Monkey!!!

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