I just got banned...by my professor

[Fake Boris]

Errr... I don't have any source.

[DRoseDARs]

Then it is nothing more than hearsay and the matter remains murky legal waters as far as this thread goes until you provide otherwise.

[Japher]

Did Asher's know it all attitude get him in trouble?

God forbid!

Give him hell Asher

[Wezil]

Originally posted by DRoseDARs

I'd advise that you cite a source for that assertion for Asher's benefit.

Criminal Code of Canada.

[Asher]

So I had my chat this morning.

He conceded that the TA's instruction was "less than he expected" and he "may have misgauged the workload of this assignment" and that he apologizes. He has also restored my posting access.

He said he will talk with the TAs and standardize the "hints" (ie, instructions) they give to the students. He also promised that the next (and last) assignment will be a lot less work.

But, he will not provide an extension. He did provide a one day extension last assignment for similar reasons, but apparently a couple keeners complained to the department head about it (wtf?). They felt it was unfair that the whole class got an extra day to work on the assignment before submitting it electronically (wtf??). And no, the grades are not on a curve.

[Japher]

That was no good... Asher's ego was fed.

[Hot Mustard]

Originally posted by Japher
That was no good... Asher's ego was fed.

True, but no harm there - something that is infinite can't really get larger.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by DRoseDARs
Then it is nothing more than hearsay and the matter remains murky legal waters as far as this thread goes until you provide otherwise.

I looked it up during the Dingwali? case earlier this year. Canada is a single-party-consent jurisdiction.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Asher


But, he will not provide an extension. He did provide a one day extension last assignment for similar reasons, but apparently a couple keeners complained to the department head about it (wtf?). They felt it was unfair that the whole class got an extra day to work on the assignment before submitting it electronically (wtf??). And no, the grades are not on a curve.

I agree with your wtf attitude toward the keeners but you should know that all grades are on a curve, one way or another. In a class of 20, would tou expect an "A" if there were 10 assignments clearly better than yours . . . even if yours was objectively of a very high calibre??

[Asher]

In a class without a curve, yes, that's generally how it works.

If there are clear-cut guidelines for assignments (correct implemention of blah function - 10 marks), as this class has, then a curve makes no sense.

[Hot Mustard]

Sounds like the keeners need a lesson taught to them...in umm...social skills.

[Fake Boris]

People in compsci are so gay

[Flubber]

R. v. Duarte [1990] 1 S.C.R. 30:

Participant recording is ok but the state doing it seems to be a no-no

By contrast to the general provisions on electronic surveillance, the Code places no restriction on participant surveillance, i.e., where one of the parties to the conversation consents. The police may employ this practice in their absolute discretion, against whom they wish and for whatever reasons they wish, without any limit as to place or duration. There is a total absence of prior judicial supervision of this practice.

. . . . .

"Whether or not to allow participant surveillance is a policy decision fraught with the gravest of implications. Countenancing participant surveillance, strikes not only at the expectations of privacy of criminals but also undermines the expectations of privacy of all those who set store on the right to live in reasonable security and freedom from surveillance, be it electronic or otherwise. It has long been recognized that this freedom not to be compelled to share our confidences with others is the very hallmark of a free society. The sole effect of requiring a warrant would be to ensure that police restrict "participant monitoring" to cases where they can show probable cause for a warrant. It would not hamper their ability to combat crime effectively."

Participant surveillance infringes s. 8 of the Charter. It leaves all the conditions under which conversations are intercepted to the sole discretion of the police and therefore cannot be held to meet the definition of "reasonable" in the context of s. 8 of the Charter. Its large-scale use by police could by-pass any judicial consideration of the entire police procedures and make the entire scheme in Part IV.1 of the Code largely irrelevant. Indeed, the constitutionality of Part IV.1 of the Code is predicated on the numerous safeguards designed to prevent the possibility that the police view recourse to electronic surveillance as a routine administrative matter.

The simple fact that the police could employ the same investigatory tool with or without a warrant destroys any argument that participant surveillance can be upheld as a reasonable limit to the right to be secure from unreasonable search and seizure.

I haven't checked if this has been updated but this was the SCC .

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Asher
In a class without a curve, yes, that's generally how it works.

If there are clear-cut guidelines for assignments (correct implemention of blah function - 10 marks), as this class has, then a curve makes no sense.

I agree if the question has answers which are either correct or incorrect.


If they don't, then every class is implicitly curved. Since the standard for an "A" is generally excellence, it gets tough to argue that 75% of the class "excelled"

[notyoueither]

Re: Re: Re: I just got banned...by my professor

Originally posted by Asher

Is it really illegal to record a conversation taking place in public?

Not in Canada, so long as one of the people involved consents (and that would be you).