Chicago cafe owner takes a stand against boisterous children!

[lord of the mark]

"I love people who don't have children who tell you how to parent," said Alison Miller, 35, a psychologist, corporate coach and mother of two. "I'd love for him to be responsible for three children for the next year and see if he can control the volume of their voices every minute of the day."


QFT

[Drake Tungsten]

its all the junk culture, esp the frigging video games

I disagree. Video games teach kids to be quiet, lest they alert the Covenant to their presence. Better to melee those Grunts while they're still asleep.

[Dinner]

Kids are noisy bastards and I, as a nonparent, prefer to eat where someone's little angel isn't screaming his/her head off. Sure, kids will be kids but you don't have lots of crap parents who just tune their kids out and don't bother to supervise them in public and that's not good parenting skills. I know I intentionally go to restaurants where I'm less likely to find crappy parents letting their progeny run a muck; there are other restaurants where the parents all get together and that solution seems to work well.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by DinoDoc

"I love people who don't have children who tell you how to parent," said Alison Miller, 35, a psychologist, corporate coach and mother of two. "I'd love for him to be responsible for three children for the next year and see if he can control the volume of their voices every minute of the day."

I have to deal with this ****ty attitude toward parenting every day. It really is a little sickening to deal with children screaming their heads off and running all over the place. Dogs are better behaved than some of the children I have to suffer through and dog owners make more of an effort to control them than some of the parents I see.

You are in retail right now, right? I can symphatize... when I worked at CVS, the kids were a freaking NIGHTMARE. Especially when they ran around the store, knocking stuff over. Sometimes I felt like yelling at the parents to stop their kids or else put everything they knocked over where it belongs.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
"I love people who don't have children who tell you how to parent," said Alison Miller, 35, a psychologist, corporate coach and mother of two. "I'd love for him to be responsible for three children for the next year and see if he can control the volume of their voices every minute of the day."


QFT

The cool thing is he's not asking them to control their kids every minute of every day. Instead he's simply asking for them to be good parents while in his restaurant. It used to be if your child was screaming you took him outside and you sure didn't let your children run around while mom & dad just ignored them.

A personal pet pieve are those parents who take their kids to the movies who let their children scream, yell, talk, kick seats, and other wise make a nuscience of themselves without ever telling their kids to be quiet or disapplining them in anyway. The worst are the parents who won't take a screaming child outside. The rest of us paid to see a movie and we'd like to hear it and if your child is up to being taken out & behaving in public places then maybe they shouldn't be there.

[JohnT]

"I love people who don't have children who tell you how to parent," said Alison Miller, 35, a psychologist, corporate coach and mother of two. "I'd love for him to be responsible for three children for the next year and see if he can control the volume of their voices every minute of the day."

QFT.

Imran. Oerdin.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Hey JohnT... that was an example of a spoiled parent .

[JohnT]

I have absolutely no idea what that response means. Wanna try again, this time in English?

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Oerdin


The cool thing is he's not asking them to control their kids every minute of every day. Instead he's simply asking for their to be good parents while in his restaurant. It used to be if your child was screaming you took him outside and you sure didn't let your children run around while mom & dad just ignored them.

Without being present there, I dont know if hes having issues with screaming kids, or kids who simply get a little loud, in the way kids do. I dont know if its kids making a huge problem or if its only kids getting up and walking around. I suspect if he was only taking issue with egregious cases, as all of you seem to assume, there wouldnt be such a reaction from neighborhood parents. There ARE some jerk parents, but MOST are not. If theres a neighborhood boycott, I suspect hes being more of a jerk than folks here realize.


And can we do something about the fast food restaurants that advertise to kids? The regular restaurants that feature kids meals, every one of which is accompanied by french fries? The retailers (including CVS) who pitch junk at kids? The video games that destroy kids sense of quiet, and teach disrepect for authority?

G-d Damn it, we do NOT live in a parent friendly culture now, and some of the folks posting on this thread have in the past defended the least parent friendly aspects of it.

[Imran Siddiqui]

JohnT: I did respond in English... the person you quoted... that's a spoiled parent. No one asked her to squeeze out 3 kids from her loins and take them everywhere and anywhere. If she can't stop her children from screaming, maybe she should leave them home or take them to a candy store .

[JohnT]

Sounds like there's a lot of dicks in that article.

Childless people ranting about children:

And I also mean myself, when I was childless and clueless as well.

[lord of the mark]

Mr. McCauley, 44, said the protesting parents were "former cheerleaders and beauty queens"


Really? A hippy enclave is drawing this concentration of female pulcritude, rather than the garden variety Yuppies? The ex beauty queens have abandoned the suburbs?

Pardon, this more sounds like a hippy resenting the influx of regular yuppies, and responding, well, weirdly.

[JohnT]

I mean, shouting "we have a screamer"... about a four-month old.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by JohnT

"I love people who don't have children who tell you how to parent," said Alison Miller, 35, a psychologist, corporate coach and mother of two. "I'd love for him to be responsible for three children for the next year and see if he can control the volume of their voices every minute of the day."

QFT.

Imran. Oerdin.

I think you meant to say QFBS.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

JohnT: I did respond in English... the person you quoted... that's a spoiled parent. No one asked her to squeeze out 3 kids from her loins

Uh, you have a problem with reproduction?

and take them everywhere and anywhere.

so you really dont want kids around at all huh?

If she can't stop her children from screaming,

Thats not what she said. She can keep them from screaming, and keep them quiet most of the time, but sometimes theyre going to get momentarily loud.