The Death Penalty

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Going by your criteria, everyone at Notre Dame, Southern Methodist University, or wherever is of that faith, or even believe?

You going to a school doesn't count for much.

You have no ****ing clue what you're talking about, Sloww.

a) It was high school. Loyola High School, Montreal, Quebec, Canada. We had 5 hours of religion class every year for 5 years. That class (and a great number of my other classes) were taught by Jesuit priests. Every last one of them was against capital punishment.

b) 94% of the attendees of that high school were raised Catholic. That was guaranteed. The school had 6% of its available slots left to non-Catholics. It was in the student handbook. I was one of those 6%, my parents having become lapsed Catholics at some point in their early adulthood.

c) None of this changes the simple statistical hypothesis that people who identify themselves as "Christian" in the United States are more likely to support the death penalty than those who don't. Hell, just take a gander at the geography of it...

[SlowwHand]

" It was high school. Loyola High School, Montreal, Quebec, Canada. We had 5 hours of religion class every year for 5 years. That class (and a great number of my other classes) were taught by Jesuit priests. Every last one of them was against capital punishment."

That right there shoots down everything you've said.
What are laws based on? Check back when you figure it out.

[SlowwHand]

What are laws based on?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
" It was high school. Loyola High School, Montreal, Quebec, Canada. We had 5 hours of religion class every year for 5 years. That class (and a great number of my other classes) were taught by Jesuit priests. Every last one of them was against capital punishment."

That right there shoots down everything you've said.
What are laws based on? Check back when you figure it out.

You're a ******.

[Kuciwalker]

Goes without saying.

[Max Webster]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Blind Lemon Jefferson, coming soon to a theater near you. Cool.

Funny how white boys take so well to black mans music yet just a few years ago they wanted to force them all into slave labour.

[SlowwHand]

Good argument. Well-said. You're schooling at Jesuit Prep did wonders.
Laws are based on religious beliefs.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Good argument. Well-said. You're schooling at Jesuit Prep did wonders.

I save my arguments for those who might be able to understand them.

[SlowwHand]

Ditto.
I said at the beginning, an option for those unable to be rehabilitated.
You don't bother to read, so fine.
You don't think laws are based on religion. This much is clear.
What you think they're based on, I have no idea.
You don't bother to explain your position.
You'd be wrong if you did, but you could at least make the attempt.
You're too busy trying to slam me to do that.

It's an option. You don't get it yet?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
You're a ******.

Now, now

[KrazyHorse]

It's okay. That's my last comment to him on a serious subject.

No more insults, I promise.

[Urban Ranger]

Does capital punishment help reducing crime? If not, there is no point to it.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Does capital punishment help reducing crime? If not, there is no point to it.

Except keeping the consies happy so that you can push your side on more important issues.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by SlowwHand


Do you know just how, I'm going to be kind here to you and some others and just say, wrong this is?
If anything CHRISTIANS are more apt to not support.
Go gather facts or something.

You be kind to me? Don't make me laugh.

If you can be bothered looking, the last death penalty thread has an argument from me to this effect.

I can't be bothered writing it out again.

The facts are that the death penalty does not work to prevent or deter crime, is expensive, and has been proven to have been applied to innocent people.

If you concede the above, then you have nothing other than religious or metaphysical handwaving to support it.

[Agathon]

The only sort of justification for the death penalty that has any kind of logical coherence is the retributivist theory of punishment.

The problem is then that retributivism is completely silly. You can't make it work in any practical sense without either generating silly outcomes or by arbitrarily assigning the penalties to some and not others.

It's certainly true that people who have been wronged often feel like doing the same thing back to the person who did it. But this is a ridiculous and impractical basis for a justice system.

The death penalty as practiced in the US right now is basically a form of human sacrifice. Why not go the whole hog and burn people at the stake? I'm sure you'd get large crowds.