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  • #16
    Uh oh.

    The Senate could go nuclear!

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    Solid pick resume wise. This debate will be political only. The real questions to be answered here are:

    Does the President have the right to change the direction of the court through his nominations, or is his mandate to maintain a balance on the court?

    Does the minority have the right to block the will of the duly elected majority when it comes to judicial nominees...or rather, does the mionority have the right to deny a vote based simply on the fact that they are the minority?

    Interesting it will be to watch how these are answered in the coming weeks.
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    • #17
      The other interesting question, PLATO, is what are the Republican moderates going to do. I'm sure more than one is uncomfortable with 'scAlito'. With the President's popularity so low, do they bolt on him?
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      • #18
        Alito is a great pick. Now, why couldn't Bush have picked him first instead of Miers?

        I agree with Plato that the Senate could go nuclear. His dissent in Planned Parenthood vs. Casey is enough to make the libs and feminists go nuts.
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        • #19
          I'd say that a lot of that would depend on his views regarding stare decisis and when it would be appropiate to go against precedent. If he gives a similar answer to Roberts, I don't see a real problem for the moderates backing him.
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          • #20
            I wonder why the moderates would carry your water, when you won't carry theirs. Remember, this is a coalition.
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            • #21
              DanS: Meirs was incompetent in every possible way. Specter said as much himself.
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              • #22
                I think we need a rebalancing of expectations in the GOP coalition. The self-appointed kings of social conservatism don't run the whole show. They didn't play like team players here.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DinoDoc
                  I'd say that a lot of that would depend on his views regarding stare decisis and when it would be appropiate to go against precedent. If he gives a similar answer to Roberts, I don't see a real problem for the moderates backing him.
                  Roberts' nomination process is completely different from Alito's. First, Roberts was replacing a conservative justice, so Democrats were not fighting to maintain the balance of the court. But more importantly, Roberts had little judicial background, so the only thing available to discuss was his answers to questions. In Alito's case, he has a clear judicial record as a hardline conservative. The consensus at the moment is that if confirmed Alito would be most right-wing judge on the court, and that is not an easy distinction to make in a court that includes Scalia.

                  So if there ever was a moment to fillibuster, now is the moment. And I strongly doubt that Senators like Chafee are at all comfortable with him, so we can expect a traditional cloture motion to fail. I expect we'll hear a lot of talk about the nuclear option in the coming weeks and months, and if the Republican strategists are incredibly stupid, they might even use it.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by PLATO

                    Does the President have the right to change the direction of the court through his nominations, or is his mandate to maintain a balance on the court?
                    I think FDR made that clear decades ago.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by DanS
                      I think we need a rebalancing of expectations in the GOP coalition. The social conservatives don't run the whole show.
                      I'm somewhat curious why you feel the failiure of of the Meiers nomination is solely on the heads of the social conservatives when her one on one meetings with the senators themselves were less than stellar and then we have the poor and incomplete answers to the Senate questionaire.
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                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • #26
                        "Scalito's" confirmation is not a sure thing.

                        CNBC reports that he has at least one scandal in his background: he upheld the dismissal of a lawsuit against Vanguard Group while he was holding hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of shares in Vanguard mutual funds.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DinoDoc
                          I'm somewhat curious why you feel the failiure of of the Meiers nomination is solely on the heads of the social conservatives when her one on one meetings with the senators themselves were less than stellar and then we have the poor and incomplete answers to the Senate questionaire.
                          The self-appointed leaders of social conservatism killed her nomination in the cradle. Clear as day. I'm curious as to how you would think otherwise.

                          If some social conservatives want to fall on their swords for their cause against a president that is favorable to them, then they shouldn't be surprised when Bush does the coup de grace.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • #28
                            . . . why you feel the failiure of of the Meiers nomination is solely on the heads of the social conservatives . . .
                            Most "social conservatives" supported Miers. It was so-called "movement conservatives" who opposed her.

                            (Labels in quotes because most of these people who call themselves "conservative" are actually right-wing authoritarians.)
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                            • #29
                              I actually agree with AnnC on this one point, heaven have mercy on my soul. More like "movement social conservatives," though. Not mainline conservatives and not even your mainline social conservatives. These are greedy bastards who need to be punished.

                              (Labels in quotes because most of these people who call themselves "conservative" are actually right-wing authoritarians.)
                              Of course, this is absurd.
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by DanS
                                I think we need a rebalancing of expectations in the GOP coalition. The self-appointed kings of social conservatism don't run the whole show. They didn't play like team players here.
                                Yep. It seems like the moderates weren't even considered with the Alito pick. Makes you wonder how they'll vote.
                                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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