Ender's Game

[Imran Siddiqui]

Damn, it's been that long since TPM?

[Tassadar500]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Damn, it's been that long since TPM?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by reismark
Ender's Game & Speaker for the Dead are the only books in the original series that are worth your time. The Ender's Shadow series as a whole is much more solid (especially Shadow of the Hegemon & Shadow Puppets).

Ditto. EG and Speaker were great. The rest became increasingly too strange to sit well.


The Bean series (aka Ender's Shadow) is good stuff but IMO a shadow if you will of the original Enders Game.

Not to overhype Game of Thrones but my guess is your gonna love it.

[chequita guevara]

Didn't we discuss this book like two years ago?

[Aabraxan]

Thought Ender's Game was great. The rest of the series was good, but nothing else measured up to EG, in my opinion.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Thanks for the info.

I think I may pick up Speaker at some point and maybe the 1st book of Ender's Shadow series.

[Ecthy]

Che, we discussed it 2 months ago.

[Dr Strangelove]

Are you certain that Jake Lloyd is going to play Ender? IMDb does not mention any cast as yet being signed on.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Take it for what's its worth, but:

http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue123/news.html\

Card Adapting Ender Film For Lloyd

Orson Scott Card said he is rewriting the script for the film adaptation of his best-selling novel Ender's Game now that Star Wars: Episode I star Jake Lloyd is interested in the project. Card wrote an open letter to fans saying that with Lloyd's proposed participation, "a complete transformation of the Ender's Game screenplay became both possible and necessary."

"When I met Jake Lloyd and realized that Ender might be played by a child actor who would not culkinize the character, I was able to rethink the entire project," Card explained. He said that in previous drafts of the script he had tried to move the emotional burden of the film from Ender's character onto the surrounding adults, a compromise that was "never satisfying."

With an actor of Lloyd's caliber in the starring role, Card said the story can now be told from Ender's point of view, as it was in the novel. That change will also allow Card to include material from the book that was going to be cut out, such as the "surprise" ending, the fantasy game sequence and the intense relationships among the children enrolled at the Battle School.

However, Card said the Valentine/Peter take-over-the-world subplot is gone, "not only because we needed to cut something, but also because it would be visually boring." And Ender's meeting with the Hive Queen has been moved forward in time, so that it now takes place immediately after the last battle rather than on a distant planet years later.

Card also hinted that Ender's Shadow, his new book that tells the story of Ender's Game through the eyes of a young boy named Bean, could be filmed side-by-side with Ender's Game. "Ender's Game could be released one summer, Ender's Shadow the next," he said.

[Dr Strangelove]

Well it is true that American audiences tend to frown upon movies that portray intense relationships between six-year old children.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Man, imagine an Ender's Game screenplay without a 'suprise ending'.

[Seeker]

Were they supposed to be like genetically designed super soldiers or some **** or was Ender just really smart and really pissed off?

Why did all the other 'super solider' kids suck so bad compared to Ender?

Maybe this is actually a psychological novel, and after the government comes to pick Ender up he's institutionalized and what we actually read on the page is just wish-fulfillment?

Also it was kinda stupid that the alien menace dies so easily. Do they only have one Queen or what? No other planets or bases? Given the inevitablity of arms races, where is the Bug version of the Little Doctor?

I think the aliens are just playing dead to lull the humans into a false sense of security....surely Ender, with his chess grandmaster brain, can see that?

Final thought: Who would win in a no-holds barred War of Assassins, Ender Wiggin or Paul Atreides-Muad 'ib, at the same ages?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Ender is a genius, duh . Though after being taught by Ender, they did ok .

And IIRC, there were many queens on the alien homeworld. They came from the other planets that had their fleets destroyed. And they didn't come up with their own Dr. Device because they didn't want a war.

[Seeker]

Bah. Stupid aliens.

[Sikander]

Like many here I enjoyed Ender's Game, but didn't really like any of the books in the rest of the series. I read Ender's Shadow and enjoyed it as well, but haven't read any of the other shadow books and probably won't. The author is ok when he has interesting and novel ideas to work with, but he's a hack when it comes to style and is definitely too prolific for his own good. He desperately needs a good editor, but that won't happen because he makes more money with quantity than quality.