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  • #76
    Buildings collapse, people fall and break their necks, stuff falls on them, car accidents, etc...

    Confirmation of a final death toll will be difficult because many bodies are buried beneath the rubble.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by Kuciwalker
      I honestly don't understand how so many people die in these things. I mean, it's the ground shaking. It's not like big pits open up and swallow people. How do most people die?
      Do you honestly need to ask this?

      To EmFab's list you can add landslides if the terrain is weak. The time of day makes a huge difference as well- if it happens when most people are indoors, the death rate will be higher.
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      • #78
        Originally posted by GePap
        Do you honestly need to ask this?
        Yes.

        None of the descriptions I've heard of earthquakes in California and Japan ever sound like something that is particularly dangerous.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Kuciwalker


          Yes.

          None of the descriptions I've heard of earthquakes in California and Japan ever sound like something that is particularly dangerous.
          The '95 Kobe earthquake killed 5000 people.

          Maybe you missed my statement about building codes. Buildings in California and Japan are supposed to by law stand up to most quakes-this is why if a big quake hit, the death rate would not be huge. IN a place like Kashmir, I doubt they have building codes, and in the rest of Pakistan they are probably a joke.
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          • #80
            In addition this eqarthquake was about eight times stronger than the ones in California and Japan. The Richter scale is logarithmic.
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            • #81
              Originally posted by Kuciwalker
              I honestly don't understand how so many people die in these things. I mean, it's the ground shaking. It's not like big pits open up and swallow people. How do most people die?

              You should watch video footage of glass panes exploding out of frames during an earthquake, or even mundane objects cascading off high shelves- inside and outside a building become danger zones in often unexpected ways.

              In Afghanistan during a previous earthquake a clay built dwelling collapsed, with the clay falling apart and suffocating the inhabitants, who were found sitting up, smothered by powderized clay.

              Then there's fires, ruptured gas pipes, burning oil, masonry and rubble falling on people, car crashes, derailments, trees falling on cars or bicycles, death from starvation or thirst, shock, heart attacks, blood loss...

              oh, and infection and septicaemia.
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              • #82
                I am quite shocked by the high number as well and I can only seriously hope that the rerected buildings will be stronger. After all the indian plate is moving up north and more quakes are only a question of time.

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                • #83
                  USA mandates a "sway regulation" on all tall structures.
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by molly bloom

                    Then there's fires, ruptured gas pipes, burning oil, masonry and rubble falling on people, car crashes, derailments, trees falling on cars or bicycles, death from starvation or thirst, shock, heart attacks, blood loss...

                    oh, and infection and septicaemia.
                    And now comes a blizzard

                    (That's at least what they said on my radio news this morning)
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Spiffor
                      Bloody hell
                      I am not sure about the bloody part, but Hell is quite an accurate term for the area now.
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                      • #86
                        Yeah, maybe now some people might realise why making fun of a disaster is a stupid thing to do, or that defending said people is also a stupid thing to do...

                        These people are poor, many of them live in shacks on unstable ground - of course more of them are going to die, especially when the earthquake in question is many orders of magnitudes greater than the CA or Kobe examples...

                        Still, hopefully Kuci has been edumacated and is now less ignorant on the subject...
                        Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                        • #87
                          And keep in mind that Kashmir is largely valleys with large mountains on the side, so rockslides form a major component in these things. I mean these are the foothills of the Himalaya's.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by MOBIUS
                            Yeah, maybe now some people might realise why making fun of a disaster is a stupid thing to do, or that defending said people is also a stupid thing to do...

                            These people are poor, many of them live in shacks on unstable ground - of course more of them are going to die, especially when the earthquake in question is many orders of magnitudes greater than the CA or Kobe examples...

                            Still, hopefully Kuci has been edumacated and is now less ignorant on the subject...
                            Eh, what the ****?

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Kuciwalker


                              Eh, what the ****?
                              I think that MOBIUS in his usual nice and venomous way has said that you might have learned the lesson that earthquakes several magnitudes higher than CA eartquakes and in areas with lower building standards actually are dangerous.
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                              • #90
                                I was wondering more about the first two paragraphs. And I knew they were dangerous, I asked how they were dangerous.

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