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  • #31
    What is "pork"?
    I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"

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    • #32
      Originally posted by snoopy369


      Your morals tell you that it shouldn't be taught in schools, because it's not true.

      Their morals tell them that it should be taught in schools, because it is true.

      I'm not saying I'm pro-creationism being taught in schools - but i'm also aware that it's because of my own personal moral stance, not because i'm 'right'. The only people who believe in 'one truth' are ... um ... the religious folks ...
      Have we all forgotten the principles of objective verifiability , provability , and the scientific method ?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Pekka
        oh come on Americans are not stupid.
        Looking at the fellow students of mine in my general chemistry course tells me otherwise. How hard is it for someone to grasp that a unimolecular reaction uses ONE reactant, or that you can simply do basic math on a calculator instead of just begging the teacher to give the answer? I've just found that, for better or worse, most people just arn't willing to do the work. It's a matter of laziness, but that in itself is stupidity, not ignorance, because people should know better. A good part of the problem is pretty much as Drake has said - it's the culture we have for school.

        I have faith that it's possible, but I couldn't remotely tell you how or why, and I doubt any of you could, either, without relying on your faith that someone else is right.
        In the case of science, faith is used by people who don't understand the actual science behind it. This is how the layman tends to not see a difference between the outlandish claims of both science and religion. However, there is a difference - namely, just because you don't understand, does not mean that there are not other scientists that understand. It's the collectivity of science that is its major strength - not all scientists are strong in every single aspect, and the use of faith as a substitute can be dangerous. It is better to be a sceptic and completely follow the methods of science, when it comes to science, than put faith in the current theories - science is never meant to be an absolute truth. Faith, while easy to take hold of, in the end, is not helpful for science.

        When it comes to the philosophical implications of science, however; that is a completely different story. Yet, at the same time, it's not relevant to science as a whole - just because you might seem disturbed by quantum mechanics doesn't mean that it isn't an accurate view of reality, for example.
        "Compromises are not always good things. If one guy wants to drill a five-inch hole in the bottom of your life boat, and the other person doesn't, a compromise of a two-inch hole is still stupid." - chegitz guevara
        "Bill3000: The United Demesos? Boy, I was young and stupid back then.
        Jasonian22: Bill, you are STILL young and stupid."

        "is it normal to imaginne dartrh vader and myself in a tjhreee way with some hot chick? i'ts always been my fantasy" - Dis

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        • #34
          Originally posted by aneeshm


          Have we all forgotten the principles of objective verifiability , provability , and the scientific method ?
          What, are you a Satanist?
          The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

          The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Tattila the Hun
            What is "pork"?
            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
              Japanese students work harder than American students, mainly as a result of intense parental pressure. That's a problem no amount of funding is going to address.
              qft
              "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
              —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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              • #37
                Re: Re: Americans are stupid.

                Originally posted by Chemical Ollie


                l recall that the first debate I had with you on this board was over this topic, a few years ago.

                So now you have finally discovered what you denied back then:

                The average American is stupid and ignorant, despite most people on Apolyton being far better than average.
                Not at all. This video, while extremely funny, is obviously skewed. The video depicts only Americans who know incredibly little about geography and who actually want the US to invade another country. It's easy to interview 500 people and then choose 20 of the dumbest to depict in your video. What's the probability that a random selection of 5 or 6 people who you ask to identify some country will all choose Australia? Pretty damn low.
                I no longer use this account.

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                • #38
                  Re: Re: Re: Americans are stupid.

                  Originally posted by vomitus


                  Not at all. This video, while extremely funny, is obviously skewed. The video depicts only Americans who know incredibly little about geography and who actually want the US to invade another country. It's easy to interview 500 people and then choose 20 of the dumbest to depict in your video. What's the probability that a random selection of 5 or 6 people who you ask to identify some country will all choose Australia? Pretty damn low.
                  I'm not basing my opinion on any video, I'm basing it on people I've met during trips to US.
                  So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
                  Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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                  • #39
                    Most American public schools are garbage because Republicans don't want to fund them, religious nut jobs keep trying to make Jesus the center of everything, teachers' unions fight increased standards, and parents can't be bothered to care about their children's education.
                    Our worst schools are where Republicans ain't -- our inner cities. They spend a fortune in these inner city school districts. Coincidence? Nope.

                    Don't try to foist Democratic Party abject failures on the successful GOP.
                    Last edited by DanS; October 7, 2005, 12:14.
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                    • #40
                      teachers' unions fight increased standards, and parents can't be bothered to care about their children's education. Worse yet when ever some tries to force higher standards on our underachieving school system it is decried as bureaucratic heavy handedness.
                      Sometime you do hide gems of reality inside your biases super troll posts. Perhaps a remnant of your former relevant self?
                      "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                      • #41
                        sure you will deny it though and you will claim that anyone presenting facts you don't like is a troll.
                        You presented facts?
                        "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                        • #42
                          Jesus Verto wept.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by DanS
                            Our worst schools are where Republicans ain't -- our inner cities. Coincidence? Nope.

                            Don't try to foist Democratic Party abject failures on the successful GOP.
                            I'm basing this off of comparisions of state test scores. Lord knows those float up each year and usually someone breaks it down the results down by red or blue. The blue tend towards the top and the red tend towards the middle or bottom. We've seen such threads here at poly.

                            I'm contending that a lot of this has to do with priorities which are a function of political philosophy.
                            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Patroklos
                              Sometime you do hide gems of reality inside your biases super troll posts. Perhaps a remnant of your former relevant self?
                              Some times you post something which isn't a complete waste of time to read, however, this isn't one of them.
                              Last edited by Dinner; October 7, 2005, 13:44.
                              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                              • #45
                                If you break it down more than simpley to the state level, you will notice that the overwhelming trend in education is wealth.
                                "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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