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Originally posted by MrFun
Unbelievable....
Unbelievable....
Doomsday predictions about gun violence never materialized.
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Our last foray into the ethos of the Wild West was in 1987, when we made concealed weapons available to the masses. But a funny thing happened.
Doomsday predictions about gun violence never materialized.
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
Our last foray into the ethos of the Wild West was in 1987, when we made concealed weapons available to the masses. But a funny thing happened.
Doomsday predictions about gun violence never materialized.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...3910469.column
Laws allowing concealed weapons =! laws allowing to murder someone on the whim if you "feel" threatened.
You can have a concealed weapons law without having a threatened-motivated lethal defense law.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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I'm sorry. I forgot that they killed people as sport in Florida. You'd think che would make more threads on that.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Wait a minute- given the fact that many black males feel threatened by the police, how does this law handle the shooting of police officers, specially if they are undercover?If you don't like reality, change it! me
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here it isOriginally posted by GePap
Wait a minute- given the fact that many black males feel threatened by the police, how does this law handle the shooting of police officers, specially if they are undercover?
Edit found the specific section:
(2) The presumption set forth in subsection (1) does not apply if:
(d) The person against whom the defensive force is used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who enters or attempts to enter a dwelling, residence, or vehicle in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person entering or attempting to enter was a law enforcement officer.Last edited by DinoDoc; October 5, 2005, 14:51.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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BTW, now that the law is in effect where are the rivers of blood that Odin, che, et al are predicting? Are they going to be found with Iraqi WMD?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Hmmm . . . . . . .
gays gunning down "threatening" homophobes on the whim, and blacks gunning down "threatening" white racists on the whim.
Well, maybe DD is right -- maybe this law won't be so bad after all.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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You take things to the exteme in any situation.
Someone has a weapon, gun or knife or club.
They confront you ona darkened street.
You feel that the law makers, by giving you recourse, are idiots.
Maybe so. A thinning of the herd opportunity now passes.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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Nobody said whatever you feel is right, you still have to justify it after the fact."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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that's easy...
"they said they were going to kill me, go ahead ask them... oh, wait, their dead."Comment
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More like, "I thought he pulled a gun, but it was actually a foil wrapped grinder" and now I am in jail
"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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One of the current advantages to the concealed carry laws is that, until this change was made, any intelligent person was loathe to shoot due to the risk to him and his family. The training my friend in law enforcement is giving me is not how to hit a target - my experience with rifles has made me able to meet those minimal requirements almost effortlessly (7 yard rnage) - but how to draw and maintain control of a weapon when someone moves up into body contact with you. In law enforcement parlance, maintaining control of your weapon - necessary if you hesitate too long. I have mixed feelings on this change. There WILL be an increased number of shootings over this, though I doubt "carnage" per se. However, intelligent people were not seriously hampered by the current laws, so I do understand why this makes people nervous. It is a state exercising its right to be an incubator for democracy.
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Originally posted by Patroklos
Nobody said whatever you feel is right, you still have to justify it after the fact.
Just another way for murderers to bolster their defense.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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NEWSFLASH. We don't need a law like this, because everyone already has the natural right to defend themselves!Originally posted by SlowwHand
You take things to the exteme in any situation.
Someone has a weapon, gun or knife or club.
They confront you ona darkened street.
You feel that the law makers, by giving you recourse, are idiots.
Maybe so. A thinning of the herd opportunity now passes.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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You better not wear that T-shirt that you were waring the night of the Cops.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
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