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  • Originally posted by Lancer
    Imagine being all safe and warm in the womb of your mother and then being ripped from it? Mothers from hell...
    Tough luck then. No empathy from me.
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    • Why is it that people have this idea that so called "partial birth abortion" (a non-routine precedure that barefly existed, named this way by the fundies) happens on a regular basis? Nearly all abortions are non-invasive and are hormonally induced.

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      • Because you can't really get outraged at a woman taking a few pills to make sure her body dumps a few clumps of cells out of her body.
        If you don't like reality, change it! me
        "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
        "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
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        • Originally posted by Jon Miller


          you know that there are abortions done in this country where they cut up the baby in the womb

          because if they just disconnected it from the mother, it would live...

          JM
          JM What the hell are you talking about. They do not There is no cutting. And I am sorry you "disconnect a fetus from the mother it isnt going to live. To disconnect that fetus youd have to severe the umbilical cord and that is where it gets blood and waste transfer as well as nutrition. I dont know where the hell u got that cut up baby propaganda. The cut off week for abortions are usually at 18 to 20 weeks, unless the mother is in danger.
          When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
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          • I will also state this i am pro choice becasue that is excatly what it is a choice. Whoe the hell is any one to take the choices away from anyone else? Dont start with what about the fetuses choice? To be able to have a choice you need to be able to have the cognitive reasoning to make a decsion and last time i checked the fetus can not make a decison. I am sure it doesnt know morse code so it cant tell the mother a dam thing. If this is your stance then i fear how you feel about The DNR orders. The person that is dying with no hope cant make a choice and has a guardian or family make that choice for them to just let them die. Do You think that is murder too?? That goes for you too BK
            When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
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            Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.

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            • I wish Americans would handle abortion like the Europeans- making it simply a health care policy issue as opposed to a "rights" issue, which it should not be.
              If you don't like reality, change it! me
              "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
              "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
              "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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              • Originally posted by Senethro
                Why is it that people have this idea that so called "partial birth abortion" (a non-routine precedure that barefly existed, named this way by the fundies) happens on a regular basis? Nearly all abortions are non-invasive and are hormonally induced.
                because I don't think there is anything really that wrong about those done pre 8 weeks

                JM
                (as it there is no human life being ended)
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                • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
                  . . . a white blood cell does not possess the capacity to grow and develop beyond being a white blood cell. The zygote, through her genetic code does have this capacity, given nourishment and shelter, to grow and develop as a human being. That is the difference, this capacity already possessed by the zygote at conception.
                  A pro-choicer would argue that the zygote has the potential to develope into a human being. The argument would continued that, because it is not yet a human being, it does not have the rights of a human being.

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                  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


                    Biological definitions exclude the young of any species since they recognise that in order for the species to propagate, requires that they be sustained by their parents.

                    Now, if you are relying on a more broader definition, then why shouldn't we kill 25 year olds who live and sponge off their parents since they are parasites too?

                    What kind of drugs are you on?
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