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  • #31
    The only thing worse than being a freeper is being a Kossack...

    It's become more and more apparent to me over the past five years that all the activism and non-violent protesting in the world will do precisely squat. When you're dealing with evil people who have no shame, the old rules of the game don't and, indeed, can't apply if you have any hope for success. Hundreds of thousands of people have marched, millions of letters have been written, tens of millions of votes cast, and hundreds of trillions of electrons expended pontificating on blogs...for nothing. Nothing has changed. Nothing will change. Not unless it comes in the form of something akin to the French Revolution.

    We need terror. We need horror. We need the streets running awash in rivers of blood of these thugs and criminals and zealots. Activism didn't prevent 60,000 deaths in Vietnam. All the activism of the Civil Rights era has gotten African Americans precisely nowhere. Segregation may not be the law of the land anymore, but it's still the de facto state of America.

    When y'all want to start throwing molotovs and sniping from windows come and talk to me. Until then, I will be content to retire, be a hermit, and laugh at everyone. Even then, I may still just feel like laughing as the world falls apart around me, but at least I'll be willing to listen.

    My mental state is collapsing and deteriorating almost daily


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    Christ, those guys are completely insane...
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    • #32
      I don't want to be partisan (I also know that the freeper scum here will always accuse anyone who stands up to their lies of being partisan)
      Couldn't even finish the sentence

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Lancer
        Or, maybe not.

        Maybe he's a great leader who will create a representative government among the dictatorships and extremeist governments of the middle east.

        Too soon to tell, though at this point he'll either go down as an complete ******* or a great leader and which it is all comes down to Iraq.

        He has the balls to take a chance...and he tackled the world's worst problem area head on.

        History will judge him.
        Oh, come on, we are talking about George W. Bush here.
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        • #34
          Re: Iraq was the “greatest strategic disaster in United States history,”

          Originally posted by Oerdin Iraq was the “greatest strategic disaster in United States history,”
          I've said at March 2003 that this war will be a great f*ck-up, but sure nobody believed me back then. It's just crazy Serb, after all. Everybody were too bussy creaming their pants about third or fourth capturing of Basrah.

          Quote: "OMG!!! It's gonna be another Vietnam! :lo l: :lo l: :lo l: :lo l: :lo l: "

          Do you (Usasians (sp?)) still laughing?
          Last edited by Serb; October 1, 2005, 07:16.

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          • #35
            You should go back through some of the old threads. I find it surprising that some people still show their faces here after what they said.
            Only feebs vote.

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            • #36
              Re: Re: Iraq was the “greatest strategic disaster in United States history,”

              Originally posted by Serb


              I've said at March 2003 that this war will be a great f*ck-up, but sure nobody believed me back then. It's just crazy Serb, after all. Everybody were too bussy creaming their pants about third or fourth capturing of Basrah.

              Quote: "OMG!!! It's gonna be another Vietnam! :lo l: :lo l: :lo l: :lo l: :lo l: "

              Do you (Usasians (sp?)) still laughing?
              You weren´t the only one.

              There were a lot of people outside of the USA here on Apolyton who said such things and also denied Bushs claims there are WMDs in Iraq.
              Well, at these times we got called Eurocoms for this
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              • #37
                Re: Re: Iraq was the “greatest strategic disaster in United States history,”

                Originally posted by Serb


                I've said at March 2003 that this war will be a great f*ck-up, but sure nobody believed me back then. It's just crazy Serb, after all. Everybody were too bussy creaming their pants about third or fourth capturing of Basrah.

                Quote: "OMG!!! It's gonna be another Vietnam! :lo l: :lo l: :lo l: :lo l: :lo l: "

                Do you (Usasians (sp?)) still laughing?
                I wasn't particularly enthusiastic about the invasion back then, but if it's any comfort to you, I'm still laughing at you.

                Then, I'm not a US American.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                  The only thing worse than being a freeper is being a Kossack...

                  Christ, those guys are completely insane...
                  I've seen far worse things (i.e., racist, bigoted, murderous things) in the Freeperverse. This is just one depressed diarist ranting, and then even saying at the end to ignore the rant, as he's just depressed. Sava's posted worse than this...
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                    Yemen was a popular revolution.
                    Yemen was trying to follow an outside path.

                    The reason Iran's revolution is so important within the Muslim world its that it has been the only one to actually try to address the relation of Islam to the state, as opposed to being based on western secular theories of governance.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Boris Godunov
                      I've seen far worse things (i.e., racist, bigoted, murderous things) in the Freeperverse. This is just one depressed diarist ranting, and then even saying at the end to ignore the rant, as he's just depressed. Sava's posted worse than this...
                      It's really not a surprise that you would defend a fellow Kossack.
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                      • #41
                        Kossack sound way cooler than freeper.

                        Hence, Kossack > Freeper.
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                        • #42
                          well i dont care about the perpretrator but about the victim.
                          now iraqis live everyday in hell. the frightening thing is the unsconsciousness-porosis with which this was done

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                          • #43
                            I think that you still have to consider that for the past 50 years the Shiites of Iraq have been an oppressed ethnic group, denied their due portion of the government of the country even though they are the majority. Realistically there is no evidence that the Sunnis were ever going to share with them. I don't think that the question could have been resolved peacefully. Civil war in Iraq was probably inevitable, and probably still is inevitable. Unfortunately now the US will be blamed for the blood bath. I fear that the future holds only more death and suffering for Iraq, probably in greater quantities than the past 3 years have seen. Few people will stop to reflect that the ultimate cause of the coming civil war has little to do with the US, and much more to do with the situation the British left the country in 50 years ago.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by GePap

                              Yemen was trying to follow an outside path.
                              By that definition the Chinese revolution wasn't really Chinese since they were following the exact same "outside path"; i.e. Marxism-Leninism.

                              I think most people will agree that the Chinese Revolution was indeed... Chinese.
                              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Boris Godunov
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