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  • Iraq was the “greatest strategic disaster in United States history,”

    I don't want to be partisan (I also know that the freeper scum here will always accuse anyone who stands up to their lies of being partisan) but this is real news which needs to be told. The number of former high ranking military personal who have described Iraq as a debacle or unwinnable has become very significant. I know some people want disenting opinions silenced and will try to shout it down with nonsense we have seen in other threads, but, this is still worth reporting.

    Retired general: Iraq invasion was 'strategic disaster'
    The Lowell Sun

    WASHINGTON -- The invasion of Iraq was the “greatest strategic disaster in United States history,” a retired Army general said yesterday, strengthening an effort in Congress to force an American withdrawal beginning next year., Retired Army Lt. Gen. William Odom, a Vietnam veteran, said the invasion of Iraq alienated America's Middle East allies, making it harder to prosecute a war against terrorists.

    The U.S. should withdraw from Iraq, he said, and reposition its military forces along the Afghan-Pakistani border to capture Osama bin Laden and crush al Qaeda cells.

    “The invasion of Iraq I believe will turn out to be the greatest strategic disaster in U.S. history,” said Odom, now a scholar with the Hudson Institute.

    Homeward Bound, a bipartisan resolution with 60 House co-sponsors, including Lowell Rep. Marty Meehan, requests President Bush to announce plans for a draw-down by December, and begin withdrawing troops by October 2006.

    The measure has not been voted on, nor has the House Republican leadership scheduled hearings. But supporters were encouraged yesterday, pointing to growing support among moderate conservatives and the public's rising dissatisfaction with the war.

    Meehan, one of the first to propose a tiered exit strategy in January, when few of his Democratic colleagues dared wade into the controversial debate, pointed to “enormous progress.”

    “Talking about this issue, having hearings on this issue, getting more Americans to focus on it will result in a change of policy,” Meehan told The Sun. “The generals and commanders on the field in Iraq overwhelmingly are saying we need less in terms of occupation and more Iraqis up front, and that's the only strategy I think that will result in getting American troops back home.”

    -- EVAN LEHMANN
    WASHINGTON — The invasion of Iraq was the “greatest strategic disaster in United States history,” a retired Army general said yesterday, strengthening an effort in Congress to for…


    Personally, I'm not sure if it is the biggest ever but it is pretty far up there. The arrogance of the Republicans like George Bush and Dick Cheney have lead us here and they have ignored all the warning sings while dismissing all the advice of people who actually knew what they were doing. The people who called for this action and who supported this action are to blame and need to be cast out for their stupidity and their down right criminal behavior.
    Last edited by Dinner; September 30, 2005, 20:54.
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  • #2
    Staying in Vietnam past say 1967 was probably a much bigger mistake.

    General Odom gives Bush far too much credit.
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    • #3
      the invasion of Iraq alienated America's Middle East allies, making it harder to prosecute a war against terrorists.
      That's the key part. George Bush went on his personal crusade to get even with the guy he blamed for ending his father's Presidency and who "tried to kill my dad". George Bush sacraficed the safety and security of the US to persue his personal vendetta and he needs to be held to task for it.
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      • #4
        Re: Iraq was the “greatest strategic disaster in United States history,”

        Originally posted by Oerdin
        the freeper scum here
        I don't think it helps win anyone's hearts or minds by bringing that kind of incivility here.
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        • #5
          Or, maybe not.

          Maybe he's a great leader who will create a representative government among the dictatorships and extremeist governments of the middle east.

          Too soon to tell, though at this point he'll either go down as an complete ******* or a great leader and which it is all comes down to Iraq.

          He has the balls to take a chance...and he tackled the world's worst problem area head on.

          History will judge him.
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          • #6
            What's a 'freeper'?
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            • #7
              One who spends time at Free Republic, a website for bat**** crazy wing nuts.
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              • #8
                Thanks Boris
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                • #9
                  Re: Re: Iraq was the “greatest strategic disaster in United States history,”

                  Originally posted by Boris Godunov


                  I don't think it helps win anyone's hearts or minds by bringing that kind of incivility here.
                  Incivility? In Poly?

                  I AM SHOCKED! SHOCKED I SAY!

                  BUt I do get to learn new vocab
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                  • #10
                    Re: Re: Iraq was the “greatest strategic disaster in United States history,”

                    Originally posted by Boris Godunov

                    I don't think it helps win anyone's hearts or minds by bringing that kind of incivility here.
                    True, but then the statement was also true. I will refrain until they show up.
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                    • #11
                      Definitely the Iraqi war triggered chaos within the region.. but this chaos is being fueled by Iran, which will be the real turning point of the next decade
                      I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

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                      • #12
                        Welll, Iran was the site of the only popular revolution in the Muslim world, so obviously it and the development of its revolution will be of immense importance to the area (that and its size and historical position)
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                        • #13
                          There were popular revolutions in Algeria, Malaysia, the UAE, and Libya but they were against foreign powers more then the existing muslim governments.
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                          • #14
                            Look, we can discuss for days about who´s to blame for the current situation in the middle east, but there are two problems that are MUST be solved, otherwise our world is going to change forever within the next 50 years: Iran and Saudi Arabia
                            I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

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                            • #15
                              Nuke the Middle East and create an army of robots to handle the oil.

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