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  • #16
    yeah...sorta
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    • #17
      those are protocols and applications, which we don't wield power over except through the foundations that they were built on.

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      • #18
        Hmm ... replace one bureacracy with another bureacracy? OK ...
        "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll die defending your right to say it." — Voltaire

        "Wheresoever you go, go with all your heart." — Confucius

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        • #19
          I think we should be willing to cut other countries in to ICANN on an informal basis, like we do with the IMF and World Bank, etc. I'm guessing we already do that for the Europeans, so I wonder why they went off the reservation at the meeting.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #20
            CONTROL, BABY, CONTROL! IT'S ALL ABOUT CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!

            *cough*

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            • #21
              I don't see what their main beef is anyways. What is wrong with how things are running now?
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              • #22
                but Americans came up with the TCP/IP.. DAMN! We're screwed.. everyone, let's start making new protocols!

                In da butt.
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                • #23
                  I've got the SCP/IP. It'll work fine, honest!

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                  • #24
                    Policy decisions could at a stroke make all Web sites ending in a specific suffix essentially unreachable. Other decisions could affect the availability of domain names in non-English characters or ones dedicated to special interests such as pornography.
                    Do I trust America with such power? No.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Europe is Trying to Steal the Internet!! ZOMG!!

                      Originally posted by OzzyKP

                      We invented it, its ours damn it. Go jump in the Mediterranean.
                      Haven't been here for ages....

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Sandman
                        Do I trust America with such power? No.
                        That's a dramatization of a scenario they thought up, but I can't think of way it could be done in reality with the current setup. The US government has only allotted itself a veto of decisions at ICANN (which AFAIK it has exercised very rarely), so it would take several years for any postive underhandedness to occur.
                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                        • #27
                          Bureaucracy!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by OzzyKP
                            I don't see what their main beef is anyways. What is wrong with how things are running now?
                            Most likely taxation.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Whoha
                              I'll post in this one to. Make your own network, we aren't going to give you any authority or power over ours.
                              Like Iraqi oil? They own it, so it's there's to do with as they feel? Some issues are so important to the world, as they affect almost every nation, that we tend to deal with them globally. Oil, food, pollution, the internet - none of these things respect imaginary lands in the sand that divide nations. Dealing with them in your way, and refusing to co-operate, will lead to the kind of isolation that involves the US *having* to find alternatives to oil, to removing the trade it depends upon, and to greatly restricting the choice people have over internationall goods, opportunities to travel, and co-operative agreements when it wants it.

                              Not really a sustainable position.
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                              But he would think of something

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                              • #30
                                They do own it, and it is theirs to do with as they please. It is beneficial for them to sell it and make it available, but not to give you or I administration over it.

                                And the US will have to find those alternatives regardless, and trade will be constricted, either by tariffs, the loss of US purchasing power, or the collective will to "save more" as some would advocate.

                                We have made our system open, and done all the heavy lifting. If you don't want or like US "control" then run your own with parts you can buy on the cheap and software you can download for free. You can even change up the protocols on your internet if you are feeling particularly frisky.

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