Norway is out

[germanos]

They hanged him, shot him, or just dumped him in a fjord

[Winston]

Notice we didn't get a source for that 12,000 figure. I don't know how many there were, I doubt anyone does.

[germanos]

Originally posted by BlackCat


Two things wrong.

I really don't think that germans was very concerned about what happened in the east of the soviet union.

Secondly, NSDAP wasn't anything else than the power base that hitler used to control germany. Actually the prime person/organisation to blame for the iron curtain is hitler/NSDAP.

Actually, both the nazi and the soviet regime was of the same bad ilk.

sorry, got my directions wrong

West.


The NSDAP wasn't just a tool. It was a means to achieve a goal.
It's really a silly notion if you want to detach Hitler from the NSDAP.
It's not that Hitler is what made the NSDAP, it's the NSDAP (=Nazi) that has made Hitler & Co.

[germanos]

What I mean to say that in a country occupied by the Nazi's, one cannot make the choice of fighting the soviets without attaching oneself to the Nazi ideology.
It simply can't be done.

First of all, the Nazi ideology is strongly anti-communist (much more so then anti-capitalist).

Secondly, if one is to join the German war, there is only one option: joining the SS. You can't join the Wehrmacht.

In order to join the SS, you have to be by any standards a Nazi.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Winston
Notice we didn't get a source for that 12,000 figure. I don't know how many there were, I doubt anyone does.

I can't find the source I found yesterday, but the figure is credible, given the numbers from other occupied countries.

[Winston]

There's also the question of how many were accepted of the ones who volunteered. I doubt it was more than half, which would put it close to the Norwegian figure Gangerolf gave.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by germanos
What I mean to say that in a country occupied by the Nazi's, one cannot make the choice of fighting the soviets without attaching oneself to the Nazi ideology.
It simply can't be done.

First of all, the Nazi ideology is strongly anti-communist (much more so then anti-capitalist).

Secondly, if one is to join the German war, there is only one option: joining the SS. You can't join the Wehrmacht.

In order to join the SS, you have to be by any standards a Nazi.

I'm not sure that you are right. If the argument had been that the volouteers should fight the english, I seriously doubt that so many would have joined.

[germanos]

Originally posted by BlackCat


I'm not sure that you are right. If the argument had been that the volouteers should fight the english, I seriously doubt that so many would have joined.

So?

I'm saying that wanting to fight soviets specifically IS a sign of being a Nazi.

[germanos]

Originally posted by Winston
There's also the question of how many were accepted of the ones who volunteered. I doubt it was more than half, which would put it close to the Norwegian figure Gangerolf gave.

http://www.milhist.dk/besattelsen/frikorps/frikorps.html

It is estimated that 3900 Danes gave their lives in German Service. Most of the surviving soldiers were sentenced to long prison terms when they returned home after the war.

Of those Danes that fell into Russian captivity the last one returned home in 1955.

[Gangerolf]

Krazy H, he was executed. in october 1945 iirc.
the death penalty was reintroduced just for him (and 36 others)

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Winston
There's also the question of how many were accepted of the ones who volunteered. I doubt it was more than half, which would put it close to the Norwegian figure Gangerolf gave.

Strangely, Win is right

There was 12.000 volunteers but only 6.000 was chosen :

http://www.milhist.dk/besattelsen/frikorps/frikorps2.htm

sorry, it's in danish,.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by germanos


So?

I'm saying that wanting to fight soviets specifically IS a sign of being a Nazi.

That is pure BS - it is a quite natural thing to want to fight the soviet empire.

[germanos]

Originally posted by BlackCat


That is pure BS - it is a quite natural thing to want to fight the soviet empire.

We are talking WW2 here

[Winston]

Originally posted by BlackCat


it is a quite natural thing to want to fight the soviet empire.

Agreed, but it was treacherous to join the fighting forces of the occupier - even if the Danish government did nothing to discourage it.. In fact they did the opposite...

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by germanos


We are talking WW2 here

Quite rigth, and many people was seriously scared about the soviet empire even back then .