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  • Originally posted by lord of the mark


    'Those sharp words don't bother Delisle. She enjoys driving her nationalist opponents crazy. In her new book, Delisle is challenging conventional Quebec wisdom that during the time of the Second World War, Quebec was an inward-looking place that didn't think much about the fascist regimes in Europe. That is a "big lie," Delisle says in her typically pointed way. In fact, she says, Quebec's priests, lawyers and academics were well aware of European-style fascism, and some of them liked it. Not surprisingly, most Quebec academics prefer to ignore that chapter of Quebec history, says John Hellman, a history professor at McGill, where Delisle did her postdoctoral research. Quebec academics don't want to dredge up memories of how the elite supported fascist regimes, he says. "It's terribly embarrassing."

    Delisle can't wait to make them blush. She has spent the last few years coming archives in Canada, the united States and France, tracking down more than a dozen Nazi collaborators who came to Quebec after the war, as well as the prominent Quebecers who helped them. As we known now, many other nazi collaborators were also welcomed by sympathizers in many other parts of Canada, but so far, few historians have chased after them in the way Delisle is doing in her home province. She tells the story of Jacques de Bernonville, a senior police officer in Vichy France who hunted down resistance fighters during the war. Condemned to death in France, he came to Quebec under an assumed name in 1946. When immigration authorities discovered who he was in 1948 and ordered him out of the country, 143 Quebec notables signed a petition defending him. De Bernonville's supporters included the secretary general of the Université de Montréal and Camille Laurin, a student who would later (in 1976) become a senior Parti Québécois cabinet minister. Another collaborator, French Nazi propagandist Paul Reifenrath, came to Quebec under an assumed name and was sent by Union Nationale premier Maurice Duplessis to the Vatican in 1949 as his unofficial envoy.

    Even the mayor of Montreal through the Thirties, Camillien Houde, supported fascist leaders like Italy's Mussolini. Henri Bourassa, the founder and former editor of Le Devoir, praised European fascist regimes as late as the summer of 1943. Polls showed the majority of Quebecers supported the Pétain regime in France, even in 1943, when it was increasingly clear that Pétain was collaborating with the Nazis. '
    And if you'd ever bothered to read any of my posts concerning Canadian history during WWII you would have noted that I'm more than well aware of this.

    The most recent post I made on the subject was less than 3 months ago.
    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
    Stadtluft Macht Frei
    Killing it is the new killing it
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    • I think that might have been in the same thread that I mentioned William Lyon Mackenzie King's anti-Semitic journal entries to you.
      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
      Stadtluft Macht Frei
      Killing it is the new killing it
      Ultima Ratio Regum

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      • And I distinctly remember Mj. Lassen being the only non-British soldier awarded a VC during WWII, posthumously.


        Non-British?

        No.

        Non-Commonwealth, maybe.
        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
        Stadtluft Macht Frei
        Killing it is the new killing it
        Ultima Ratio Regum

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        • maybe, but denmark didnt come up in that thread.
          "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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          • not that the US is pure either

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Coughlin

            I just think that both our countries would have produced our share of collaborators, had we not had the advantage of geography.
            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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            • Originally posted by KrazyHorse
              And I distinctly remember Mj. Lassen being the only non-British soldier awarded a VC during WWII, posthumously.


              Non-British?

              No.

              Non-Commonwealth, maybe.
              Commonwealth?
              In 1945?
              "post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
              "I don't like laws all over the world. Doesn't mean I am going to do anything but post about it."Jon Miller

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              • The real point was that we had so much fun killing Danes last time that we'd like another crack at it.
                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                Killing it is the new killing it
                Ultima Ratio Regum

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                • KH, maybe we can join you guys? Danes are the plague of this world
                  In da butt.
                  "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
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                  • Originally posted by germanos


                    Commonwealth?
                    In 1945?
                    The Commonwealth of Nations was established in 1931.
                    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                    Stadtluft Macht Frei
                    Killing it is the new killing it
                    Ultima Ratio Regum

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                    • Originally posted by Pekka
                      KH, maybe we can join you guys? Danes are the plague of this world
                      You missed your chance last time. You were allied with the Nazis, remember?
                      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                      Stadtluft Macht Frei
                      Killing it is the new killing it
                      Ultima Ratio Regum

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                      • Originally posted by KrazyHorse


                        The Commonwealth of Nations was established in 1931.
                        You learn something new every day
                        "post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
                        "I don't like laws all over the world. Doesn't mean I am going to do anything but post about it."Jon Miller

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                        • KH, bombing Danes is always a good idea. We want to bomb them now. Why would you not take this offer? We can like split up regions to bomb.
                          In da butt.
                          "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                          THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                          "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                          • Okay. We'll also send a few squadrons to base out of Finland. That way our pilots will get less tired and can kill Danes quicker.
                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
                            Ultima Ratio Regum

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                            • YES exactly! We can provide you with logistical means, so you can do it more properly too! Some R&R too, I mean you can fly there like in less than 30 minutes, like drive to work, do some heavy duty massacring and then get back and hit the clubs at night.
                              In da butt.
                              "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                              THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                              "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                              • Originally posted by Pekka
                                YES exactly! We can provide you with logistical means, so you can do it more properly too! Some R&R too, I mean you can fly there like in less than 30 minutes, like drive to work, do some heavy duty massacring and then get back and hit the clubs at night.
                                Clubs ? You mean saunas where the canucks can increase your pain in the ass

                                Though, I guess that it will fail because the canucks discovers all those finnish trees that the haven't hugged before
                                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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