fyromian Independence Day

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Asher
I've done far more important things than that, Markos, and I have a sense of responsibility.

it's not about doing something important

it's about daily voluntary service for 7 years

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Eli
* Eli is waiting for the next Alexander to liberate Greece from it's oppressors.

[Asher]

Originally posted by MarkG
it's not about doing something important

it's about daily voluntary service for 7 years

I volunteer to bring my wisdom here all the time.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by joncha
Remind me to ban you for no apparent reason.

I could give you a very apparent reason for banning me

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by MarkG
if they start banning people who will be left?

I was banned for several months

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
the first newspaper ever was published in Thessaloniki was the Jewish paper "EL LUNAR" (1864). Industrial development was launched too, with the big steam mill of the Italian - Jews of the Allatini family (1854).

You got to be kidding me! Alatini are like the biggest biscuit bread/products firm from when i was a kid no idea they were of jewish religion

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Bereta_Eder


You got to be kidding me! Alatini are like the biggest biscuit bread/products firm from when i was a kid no idea they were of jewish religion

" Both the Italians and Spanish were rescued from Salonika, but when Italy broke off from the Axis, the Italian Jews were then pursued in Athens and eventually deported for the most part. A group of very wealthy Jews from the Fernandez, Modiano, Torres, and Allatini families escaped to Italy and were killed by the Germans at Lake Maggiore. Another group from these wealthy families that hid in Athens were also detected and deported to Birkenau. "

[Bereta_Eder]

Yep when the Germans invaded the jewish community of Thesaloniki was all but wiped out as well as 500.000 Greek souls overall. But the firm still exists btw by that name. unless it was bought by a large multinational or something,

[Bereta_Eder]

Talking about wiping out communities it's two days since the black anniversary of the pogroms in Constnantinople that wiped out the Greek community there in 1955. And armenian and jewish. 150.000 people overall.

[MarkG]

http://www.allatini.gr/en/istoriki.asp

seem like that as of 1926 the company is greek owned

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Cort Haus


It's not 50%. I haven't seen recent figures but in 2001 the (disputed) figure was I think more between 20%-25%.

I think it is (or was at the time of the "albanian unrest") hovering around 40% of the total population. I may very well be wrong but I distinctively remember reading this number.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by MarkG

http://www.allatini.gr/en/istoriki.asp

seem like that as of 1926 the company is greek owned

ah yes. i feel a little dumb now.

[Bereta_Eder]

talking about jewish religion, during my vacations that were prolonged and ended in a remote island (kos) where bicycles were big we were heading for Asklipeiion, that's where hippocrates tought medecine. lots of dorian temples, roman pillars etc it was really a hell of a spectacle and the location must be one of the most mesmerizing on that island which was a heaven by itself.

anyway we were riding the bikes and getting closer to the inner mountains so the land started going upwards (hard for bikes).

at the road to asklipeiion (we decided to go once at dusk and then again at dawn) there was a big forest that had fences around it. that was to the right of our road. as we approached we saw a very big star of david in the iron fence door. turns out that forest was in fact a jewish cemetary. was rather eirie with the darkness and all though, very gothic like. I got pictures of it but the flash was so strong it appears to be daytime and the eiree feeling is lost in the picture

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Bereta_Eder


I think it is (or was at the time of the "albanian unrest") hovering around 40% of the total population. I may very well be wrong but I distinctively remember reading this number.

Some pro-Albanian sources did quote higher figures, but this source ('Radio Free Europe') uses a figure of 23%.

http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2005/06/4df0fcdc-3cb6-4e2e-bcef-0cc5f38914ff.html

[laurentius]

I fully support the Greek claims of Macedonia, Constantinople and Ionia. The Turkish heathens and Slavic barbarians criminally claim the glorious past as their own and shamefully exploit it.