China evacuates 790,000 as typhoon strikes

[Kuciwalker]

[techumseh]

Or they just might not have a car.

[chequita guevara]

Our mandatory evacuations are really just suggestions. They don't make you leave.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Only in recent years, dude. We had a long period of less frequent storms.

You have only lived in Florida "in recent years."

I have grandparents that have been there (in the Gulf area) for 30 years, and have talked about hurricane damage they have experience. They have had to evacuate several times. Hurricane Andrew, which was the costliest disaster up until now, happened under W.'s Dad, and has also been very recent.

There have been plenty of misses and near misses or weaker landfalls since then.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by BlackCat


I can guarante that I belive that. Human memory is hopeless when remembering past time catastrophes and acting sensible to them if they aren't reoccuring on a a yearly basis.

NO may have experienced hurricanes in previous years, but the lesson thaugt is that damage isn't that bad.

What I have read is that peoples expancies of the current storm was some flodded celllars and nothing worse.

This time, one of the real big ****s hits the fan but noone was prepared - the locals least.

So you're blaming the locals now. Nice. When all the experts have been warning about this happening for a very long time. This isn't something of a surprise.

Just to be curious - will you really blame the pres for not secure people without own capaciy to leave town when this is clearly the responsibility of the mayor and gobernor ?

Strawman. I have never blamed the President for that specific part, I've blamed him for the lack of response after the hurricane hit.

[DanS]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Our mandatory evacuations are really just suggestions. They don't make you leave.

Right. I have never known of anybody in fact coerced into evacuating (maybe I just don't remember it). Maybe urban areas require such coersion. I don't know.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
I think the main problem is that, the US is the country with the strongest Individualism tradition among the Western countries. This means that, on the average, an Usian has a higher reluctance to obey compulsory orders such as an evacuation. Some may actively resist it, considering such an order is an infringement upon their freedom.

He's actually right.


I have family that spent several years in New Orleans and said this exact thing. THere are many people in New Orleans especially that feel disenfranchised and don't feel like they need to be a part of the greater community. Community spirit there doesn't exist, and it sounds like the already weak social fabric in New Orleans was breaking down even further before the hurricane hit.

On top of that, whether we care to admit it or not, racism played a big part of this, as many whites there resent the blacks and will not go out of their way to help them. That's not my opinion. That's just how it is.

[techumseh]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Our mandatory evacuations are really just suggestions. They don't make you leave.

Really.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by techumseh
Or they just might not have a car.

If an evacuation plan requires everybody to have a car or have access to a car to get out of the place, there is something wrong with it.

[Zylka]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
No one ever accused Zylka of being smart.

Well you've done less than proving yourself so with such a baseless accusation. Seriously Che, grow up. Go to school. Get a job. Any of the above three.

Then we'll let the trite, dime a dozen manifesto hack talk about 'smart'. Until then, enjoy wasting your life as an internet idealogue. Accomplish much?

[Kuciwalker]

Wow. You weren't zomfg pwned!?

[Zylka]

I wasn't.

[Jon Miller]

it seems I was the only one who didn't beleive you to be

JM

[Odin]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
I think the main problem is that, the US is the country with the strongest Individualism tradition among the Western countries. This means that, on the average, an Usian has a higher reluctance to obey compulsory orders such as an evacuation. Some may actively resist it, considering such an order is an infringement upon their freedom.

Sad, but true. I keep trying to tell the libertarian idiots about civic duty and that no man is an island unto himself and they start spurting out crap about thier non-existant "natural right" to be inconsiderate *******s.

Libertarianism:
Utillitarianism:

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
it seems I was the only one who didn't beleive you to be

JM

I didn't believe it was him either.