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    China evacuates 790,000 as typhoon slams into coast
    September 2, 2005

    China evacuated more than 790,000 people as powerful Typhoon Talim slammed into its east coast yesterday after barrelling across Taiwan, where it left three dead and dozens injured.

    Talim was forecast to be the strongest storm to hit China this season and the observatory in Fujian province issued its highest-level alert, warning of potential landslides, flooding and widespread damage.

    With a radius of 250 kilometres, Talim was packing centre winds of up to 144 kilometres per hour, according to the central weather bureau in Taiwan.

    The China Meteorological Association said the storm made landfall at Putian city in Fujian late afternoon, bringing torrential rain and strong winds.

    State television showed rising seas off the coast of Fujian as rains hammered coastal roads, but winds did not appear as strong as they were in Taiwan where three people died and 59 were injured on Wednesday and yesterday.

    Nearly 500,000 people have been evacuated in Fujian and another 291,000 from neighbouring Zhejiang province, according to local officials, while some 30,000 fishing vessels returned to harbour.

    Most flights from Fujian's capital Fuzhou were cancelled yesterday and schools province-wide have been ordered to close until Monday, state television said.

    Talim is "probably the strongest typhoon China will experience in terms of wind this summer," said National Meteorological Centre expert Zhang Ling.

    Wang Dongfa, head of Zhejiang's meteorological bureau, said they expect the typhoon to focus on Fujian but nevertheless warned of torrential rain to Wenzhou, Taizhou and Ningbo cities and surrounding areas.

    East and south-east China are prone to typhoons and have been pummeled by dozens over the past 50 years.

    Talim churned through Taiwan Wednesday but by late yesterday had largely left the island as it churned towards China.

    Two men drowned in southern Tainan and northern Miaoli counties while a 60-year-old woman was hit by lightning in the southern Changhua county, the National Fire Agency said.

    Offices, schools and financial markets closed in Taiwan, all domestic flights were cancelled and many trains and international air services were delayed.

    An air raid drill slated for Friday in Taipei was postponed until next week.

    Electricity was cut to 1.7 million homes but most were expected to be reconnected before the end of the day.

    In Taichung, a bridge connecting Kukuan, a popular hot spring, was submerged by flash floods, prompting the evacuation of hundreds of tourists.

    In the northeastern county of Ilan, powerful waves smashed into the port of Wushi which was closed by the authorities.

    Among those injured were eight prisoners and a policeman, hurt when their van rammed a crash barrier.

    In the capital, where the rain and winds were less severe than elsewhere, bars, karaoke lounges and restaurants were crowded as people took advantage of the national holiday declared as a result of Talim.

    Most air and land traffic was expected to return to normal yesterday as the typhoon moved away.
    Kinda speaks for itself.
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  • #2
    144 kph winds = 90 mph winds. That's a cat 2 hurricane. We had gusts that high in my neighborhood and my flimsy ass windows didn't even blow out. I'm rather unimpressed.
    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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    • #3
      I think the point being that China successfully evacuated all those people, whereas we did not.
      "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
      "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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      • #4
        I suspect there were actually 800,000, with the other 10,000 having been summarily executed for disobeying the evacuation order.

        Evacuation is a rather loose term anyway. It can be taken to mean literally anything involving some kind of human locomotion.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Guynemer
          I think the point being that China successfully evacuated all those people, whereas we did not.
          Did I not read the article closely enough to see where it mentioned that everybody had been evacuated?
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #6
            BTW, it's strange that typhoon sounds more basically terrifying than hurricane.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Guynemer
              I think the point being that China successfully evacuated all those people, whereas we did not.
              Cuba's evacuation system is far more impressive. I'm cutting the original email address.

              >From: xxxxxxx
              Sent: Sep 1, 2005 9:13 PM
              To: xxxxxxxx
              Subject: how cuba does it

              i just spoke to xxxxxx, a walking encyclopedia of knowledge about cuba, and asked him how civil defense is conducted in cuba. he ticked it off while i listened with my left hand and typed with my right. here are the notes i took:

              * * *

              less than 2 months ago, cuba was able to move 1.7 [million] people on short notice.

              the whole civil defense is embedded in the community to begin with.

              people know ahead of time where they are to go.

              they come to your door and knock, and tell you, evacuation is coming, then they come and tell you, now.

              if no electricity, they have runners who communicate from a headquarters to central locations what is to be done.

              the country's leaders go on TV and take charge. but not only the leaders are speaking. the TV weatherpeople are knowledgeable. and the population is well educated about hurricanes.

              they not only evacuate. it's arranged beforehand where they will go, who has family where. not only pickup is organized, delivery of people is organized.

              merely sticking them in a stadium is unthinkable. shelters all have medical personnel, from the neighborhood. they have family doctors in cuba (!), who evacuate together with the neighborhood, and already know who, for example, needs insulin.

              if they evacuate to a countryside high school -- a last resort -- they have dormitories there.

              they also have veterinarians and they evacuate animals. they begin evacuating immediately, and also evacuate TV sets and refrigerators, so that people aren't relucatant to leave because people might steal their stuff.

              it's not throwing money at the problem. it's not financial capital, it's social capital. the u.s. in this sense has zero social capital.

              dealing with hurricanes in cuba, as compared with how it's done in the u.s., is similar to the differences in how they deal with medicine. it's not reactive; it's proactive. they act as early as possible. the u.s. doesn't have civil defense, it has civil *reaction.*
              Last edited by chequita guevara; September 3, 2005, 18:28.
              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DanS
                Did I not read the article closely enough to see where it mentioned that everybody had been evacuated?
                Let's see. 2.5million people in Putian alone. Evacuated about 500k from the entire provence. Yeah, I think they missed a couple.
                "In the beginning was the Word. Then came the ******* word processor." -Dan Simmons, Hyperion

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Guynemer
                  I think the point being that China successfully evacuated all those people, whereas we did not.
                  It's easy to evacuate people when you are a dictatorship. You can just yank people out of their homes by force if neccessary. You can't really do that under a democracry.
                  'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
                  G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by chegitz guevara


                    Cuba's evacuation system is far more impressive. I'm cutting the original email address.

                    >From: xxxxxxx
                    Sent: Sep 1, 2005 9:13 PM
                    To: xxxxxxxx
                    Subject: how cuba does it



                    less than 2 months ago, cuba was able to move 1.7 people on short notice.

                    Just out of curiosity - what 0.3 part of the second person moved are left behind ?
                    With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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                    • #11
                      I think he meant 1.7 million.
                      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                      • #12
                        Damn Chinese always one step behind us Americans.
                        Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by The diplomat


                          It's easy to evacuate people when you are a dictatorship. You can just yank people out of their homes by force if neccessary. You can't really do that under a democracry.
                          Oh, I don't disagree.

                          I just said what the point was. I don't think it's a particularly good point.
                          "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                          "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by OzzyKP
                            Damn Chinese always one step behind us Americans.
                            So that's who's been following me.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #15
                              Mao wants you back, Che.
                              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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