Turkey (So Long & Goodnight)

[Brundlefly]

Originally posted by Sir Og
There were waves of Islamic nationalism in the past but the Turkish army always intervenes.

Hmmm. Perhaps the world should look at allowing Turkey to annex Iraq as a way of promoting stability in Middle East..

[MarkG]

Originally posted by cyclotron7
I wonder if this anti-Macedonian feeling among greeks is or was mutual. Our family had a Macedonian exchange student for a year about 10 years ago, and he hated Albanians, not Greeks.

we dont hate them, we just want them to stop using our history and symbols for their own....

The new one is too much like the Japanese naval ensign.

only to show that after thousands of years of great history they couldnt somehow have another symbol to use and ended up doing something that resembles the vergina star....

Better yet, whoever can figure out who is actually buried in Vergina wins the argument and gets the symbol.

i wont answer

btw, Vergina is 20kms from my father's village and 60 kms from thessaloniki. if we do a european convention in thessaloniki we could do a short visit to see where ____ was buried

[TheStinger]

Originally posted by MarkG

Because you live in the same geographical area you are connected how exactly

how many sentences does your post contain? i'm a bit confused by your english

Its my language and I'll mangle it anyway I choose

[MarkG]

how are you connected with whoever lived in your geographical area 1000 years ago?

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by cyclotron7
I wonder if this anti-Macedonian feeling among greeks is or was mutual. Our family had a Macedonian exchange student for a year about 10 years ago, and he hated Albanians, not Greeks.

I don't think there's much hatred between Skopjians and Greeks. I knew one for a couple of months abroad we used to hang around go drinking with the gand etc. Cool guy. But I do have some funny stories about how he was a little scared at the beggining of how would Greeks would respond to him when he would tell them where he was from

[MarkG]

and we shouldnt forget Toni Savevski

[Pekka]

I think we all know the Greeks are the nazis of the mediterranian.. always has been, always has been, always will be. FACT.

[Bereta_Eder]

We're the cutest.

[Sir Og]

Originally posted by Brundlefly


Hmmm. Perhaps the world should look at allowing Turkey to annex Iraq as a way of promoting stability in Middle East..

Well Iraq was just as secular as Turkey before the US invaded. There were cases in Turkey where fundies got into parliament through elections just like in Iraq (which is as democratic as it can get) but they were not allowed to have any power (which is not very democratic but the US did not seem to have a problem with that).

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Pekka
I think we all know the Greeks are the nazis of the mediterranian.. always has been, always has been, always will be. FACT.

The Mediterranean must be quite good if their nazis are actually the ones who invented democracy...

[Ecthy]

Greeks are really Turks who'd like to be Italians.

- German traditional

[MarkG]

and noone asks who Toni Savevski is...

[Cyclotron]

Originally posted by MarkG
we dont hate them, we just want them to stop using our history and symbols for their own....

Cards on the table! If it's your symbol, prove it - who's in each tomb in the Great Tumulus? Let's hear some names, here!

Of course, any possible candidates are of the Macedonian Argead dynasty, so you'll have to prove that they're Greek enough to call them your history...

[MarkG]

Philip II, Persephone and Alexander IV (son of Alexander the Great)

Philip means "friend of horses"
Aelxander means "defender of men", also a title of goddess Hera (wife of Zeus)
Persephone means "destroyer of light", from the mythical goddess of the underworld

[MarkG]

oh, and "macedonian" derives from the Doric "makednós", meaning "tall"

and argead from "argos" meaning "shining"