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  • Originally posted by Krill
    I thought that it was not just CO2 levels, but also CH4 levels that affect the rate of global warming?
    It does, but it plays a secondary role to CO2. The main risk from methane is if there is a large release of it from the melting permafrost.

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    • Originally posted by Whaleboy
      Does your wife know?
      Can't miss it as loud as Katrina is.
      "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
      "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
      2004 Presidential Candidate
      2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)

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      • she must be an angry, head wobblin', black woman

        OH NO YOU DI'NT
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • Looks like it will probably dump a whole lot of water on the whole East Coast, well into Canada.

          My sister's in-laws have a place on Grand Isle. Or should I say that they will have had a place on Grand Isle?
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • Supposedly the Crescent City can handle any storm under a Cat 4. We'll find out.
            I'm consitently stupid- Japher
            I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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            • I guess there's many ways of "handling any storm", like flooding parts of the city to save others, etc.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • Originally posted by pchang
                Actually, climate shift is natural
                So is death, that doesn't mean we condone murder.
                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                • 100,000 people in New Orleans can't leave, they have no transportation and are going mainly to the Superdome to hide it out. This hurricane is going to take out a significant amount of the US oil supply, and is going to destroy outlying chemical plants and cemetaries will be wiped out causing lots of disease, this isn't going to be good at all. Not to mention that New Orleans is going to be under 30 feet of water which with the high winds can knock down skyscrapers.
                  "Our words are backed with NUCLEAR WEAPONS!"​​

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                  • Meanwhile, more for che to look out for:

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                    • Originally posted by BlackCat
                      Actually, it's your statement that proves ignorance, or should I rather say firm belief that human activites is to blame all (especially if it's western activities) - maybe with a gun to a meteorologist head you can persuade him or her to say that there is any significant change in weather patterns including numbers of hurricanes.


                      How does it feel having your ass so comprehensively handed to you again...?

                      I was referring to the fact that your original reply to mine both contradicts itself and shows a complete ignorance to the mechanics and connection behind hurricanes and global warming...

                      This second reply of yours is pure idiocy and has quite rightly been ridiculed.

                      I suggest you now go away and read some elementary texts on the subject because we are to blame for the increased CO2 levels (and CH4 levels) and that is responsible for global warming - which just happens to elevate the likelihood of creating the conditions required for a hurricane...

                      Now go away and stop wasting our time...
                      Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                      • Originally posted by Thorn
                        New Orleans is going to be under 30 feet of water which with the high winds can knock down skyscrapers.
                        70% of the city is below sea level. I fear that this Category 5 monster, along with the 30' storm surge, will knock down the dikes, flooding most of the city.

                        This could be the end of New Orleans as we know it.

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                        • Perhaps that would be the wake up call Americans need about the seriousness of Global Warming?

                          A sort of natural Hiroshima...

                          Hopefully New Orleans will not be seriously damaged as the hurricane might change its course. Of all the cities I've visited in the US, New Orleans was my favourite - it would be terrible if it were badly damaged...
                          Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                          • Must be hard to leave in panic like that, and know that most of your property will likely be destroyed when you return. You have only a few hours to pack, and can only bring what you can fit into your car. A war-like situation.
                            So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
                            Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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                            • How many causualties were there in the Galveston hurricane in the early 1900s?

                              Isn't that the record for hurricane deaths? With better construction, prediction, evacuation, etc, New Orleans will fare far better than that. But it's still not pretty to think about when it will make landfall...
                              meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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                              • Surely New Orleans isn't as weak as we make it sound to be?

                                This must have happened several times over the past 100 years?
                                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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