Woot! America's Navy #1 !

[Patroklos]

those who don't die in iraq

So you mean the 99.99999999999% of servie members?

[Flubber]

The flip side of any brag about being #1 in a military category is the fact that I believe it was Poland that was number one in numbers of horse mounted troops in mid 1939.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Flubber


That doesn't suprise me. Carriers are very noisy and right beneath one strikes me as a very desirable place for a sub to hide.

I'm on a Cruisier.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by Lonestar

No doubt. The RAN is very profiecent(sic).

Incidently, we had a Chilean sub sink us when we were doing exercises right before deployment. Actually, it snuck up, raised it's periscope, took a picture of the fantail (it was so close you could read the name of the sailor smoking in the pic), went away for 30 min, then the Chilean sub skipper emailed the pic to our skipper.

Just wait until you meet the SWEDE. We build subs for the others (or at least the Aussies)

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Lonestar


I'm on a Cruisier.

Do you have much of an antisub capability? Do you have accompanying anti-sub helicopters or screening vessels with specialized antisub capability?. Again, my understanding that being under ANY moving ship is a good place for a sub . Plus once they are anywhere near that close you have been tagged anyway

[Patroklos]

I am on a destroyer.

We can shoot up to 16 missiles at a time at different targets. We carry up to 64 missiles. If you can find us by our selves, and in range of 64 shore based missile batteries, assuming they don't suffer the 50% failure rate most have and don't fall prey to a soft kill by chaff or our SLQ-32 V-3 which is 60% effective, and then make it through our two CIWS mounts that are 90% effective, then MAYBE you will hit us.

Of course the only country with the capability of doing even 10% of this is the United States.

It would be of note to those here that every Iranian anti-surface missle test conducted in the last 10 years has been a failure.

[Patroklos]

Do you have much of an antisub capability?

The cruiser has sonar and helecopters at its disposal. It also has Preairie/Masker.

We have our 53C hull mounted sonar, as well as a 5600ft towed array that we find our own nuclear submaries with may times. The Flight IIA destroyers have organic helos as well

At the Joint Maritime Course in Scotland last May, every one of the subs was unable to penetrate the escort screen around the HMS Invincible. That was against French, British, German, and Swedish subs.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Flubber


Do you have much of an antisub capability?

Depends on the sub. We're unlikely to be playing against the varsity, though.

Do you have accompanying anti-sub helicopters

Yes. Two.

or screening vessels with specialized antisub capability?.

That would be us. There are no American Surface combatants that "specialize" in much of anything anymore

Again, my understanding that being under ANY moving ship is a good place for a sub . Plus once they are anywhere near that close you have been tagged anyway

Course, a Carrier Strike group will often have a, anyone? anyone? Submarine accompanying it.

[Patroklos]

Usually two, one defending one hunting.

[Patroklos]

There are also submarines patroling pretty much anywhere, and when an ESG or CSG move in the area those subs usually escort, even if the battle group doesn't know.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Patroklos

It would be of note to those here that every Iranian anti-surface missle test conducted in the last 10 years has been a failure.

kinda like the pentagon's missile defense system, eh?

[Patroklos]

kinda like the pentagon's missile defense system, eh?

I assume you are talking about the anti-Ballistic missile system, which is of course a completly different thing. (which has a 90% successful test ratio btw)

But, to rectify your ignorance, the last four SM-3 ship launched anti-ballistic defense tests were astounding successes. So much so Japan has already designed their new Kongau-class upgrades around it, as well as their new class of destroyer.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Sava
kinda like the pentagon's missile defense system, eh?

Except, Ballistics move much much quicker than big-standard cruise missiles. And we have no real trouble smacking those down.

[chequita guevara]

I have a rubber duck.

[Lonestar]

I have a rubber chicken.