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the worst one ever for me.. lasted like what.. 2 minutes? Freaking bad beat from the get go.. I had the nuts, two aces.. everyone starts conservatively as usual, and then two dudes goes all-in.. no flop yet seen.. well I have nuts.. I'm thinking I should hold on for a moment to get some sweat on, but then again I have the nuts, and thinkign the only right move is to move in, since .. well I got the nuts. What happens? No one has **** but me, and the flop comes. 3 diamonds.. I'm like damn.. I have no diamonds at all..turn .. diamond.. bye bye pekka.. what a ****ty one that was
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Originally posted by Pekka the worst one ever for me.. lasted like what.. 2 minutes? Freaking bad beat from the get go.. I had the nuts, two aces.. everyone starts conservatively as usual, and then two dudes goes all-in.. no flop yet seen.. well I have nuts.. I'm thinking I should hold on for a moment to get some sweat on, but then again I have the nuts, and thinkign the only right move is to move in, since .. well I got the nuts. What happens? No one has **** but me, and the flop comes. 3 diamonds.. I'm like damn.. I have no diamonds at all..turn .. diamond.. bye bye pekka.. what a ****ty one that was
That sucks. That's always what happens to me. Whenever I get get AKs or KQs or KK the flop gives me nothing and then the rest of the cards come to form a flush or a straight for somebody else.
KH, if you're not only flabbing your gums, why don't you gimme some insights.. want to be my mentor? I'm in need for money and I have mathematical talents, and I have an eye for odds. I only have one strategy, which is conservative style, but I'd like to learn more hold'em.. strategies. Suitable for online games. I will cut you a deal if it works out for me as well. Say.. up to my first 10 000, I give you 10%? I give you my word of honour, and promise to study your strategy and be a good student. What do you say?
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bfg900, yeah I know.. I'm known to lay down monsters but.. when I have AA's in the pocket from the get go and everyone is raising like there is no tomorrow.. I have difficulties not going with it. I know most of them don't have anything, and I do realize often times with these kind of players (bad players) you get bad beats and that's it.. you're gone.. and it sucks..
but it was not played well on my part.. I mean.. I could have waited a bit more and not go to the first good one. Then again, it was the starting of the tourney, so I could have cashed off with the newbies flying out with their all-ins from the first hands. You know, be the chip leader early on and cool down.. just one time.. with the nuts.. multiply my stack at least x 7. I should have not go with it obviously but it .. well sucks.
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But Pekka-- your play was correct-- If I'm sitting there with AA, of course you are going to stay in on bets even big bets preflop. How can you not call an "all-in" preflop if you are sitting there with AA ?? The odds are totally in your favor. The fact that you lost-- just poor dumb luck.
Some shmo may flop to a full house but that still doesn't mean its a good idea to play a 2-7 offsuit.
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Originally posted by Pekka
KH, if you're not only flabbing your gums, why don't you gimme some insights.. want to be my mentor? I'm in need for money and I have mathematical talents, and I have an eye for odds. I only have one strategy, which is conservative style, but I'd like to learn more hold'em.. strategies. Suitable for online games. I will cut you a deal if it works out for me as well. Say.. up to my first 10 000, I give you 10%? I give you my word of honour, and promise to study your strategy and be a good student. What do you say?
I already wrote out a very long post detailing my basic strategy about 6 months ago.
KH, can't find it.. I'm not sure if this communist board lets me search OTF anymore, since I didn't pay thousands of dollars just to be elite in a discussion board. Wrongness!
You wouldn't happen to .. or remember who started the thread.. ?
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse
KQ is probably the worst-played hand in existence (with the possible exception of JJ)
KQs IS NOT A GREAT HAND
While everything you say is true... it really depends on how many people are left in the game. As the number of players decrease, the strength of KQ increases
good odds or not, I don't like deuces in the pocket, I throw them away usually pre-flop.. of course, depends on the number of players but if full table, I won't go with them, ever, unless I'm out of bullets and I really need to build my stack in the next few hands or I'm gone.
I don't like one ace, if it's coupled with anything else than value card. And even then it's sometimes a stretch.
I don't like Jacks. My favourite is QQ, KK or AA.
But even with my favourites, I like to slow play. This of course isn't the same with good players, but with most players it works. Get them on it. Go heavy and see everyone drop their cards, but in most online games, you slow play and even check in between, and if you have excellent cards, you're likely going all-in against at least two players. If you're in the right table of course . Slow play always works there, but like said, with good players, it's a different story. But with these normal visitors, you can't buy the pot, so that's a huge risk, never try, I have tried it and never again online There's always some Jonathan, Jacob or GIMMEYOMONEY943 who will go with nothing on you and win it.
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While everything you say is true... it really depends on how many people are left in the game. As the number of players decrease, the strength of KQ increases
That's true of all hands, and the likelihood that you're facing a monster decreases with the number of hands dealt. There's still no reason to classify KQs in the same league as the actual big starting hands. If you're consistently winning money playing KQs for big raises preflop against more than 5 opponents then your opponents are huge morons.
Shorthanded is radically different. I bet far more aggressively, bluff a lot more etc.
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the worst one ever for me.. lasted like what.. 2 minutes? Freaking bad beat from the get go.. I had the nuts, two aces.. everyone starts conservatively as usual, and then two dudes goes all-in.. no flop yet seen.. well I have nuts.. I'm thinking I should hold on for a moment to get some sweat on, but then again I have the nuts, and thinkign the only right move is to move in, since .. well I got the nuts. What happens? No one has **** but me, and the flop comes. 3 diamonds.. I'm like damn.. I have no diamonds at all..turn .. diamond.. bye bye pekka.. what a ****ty one that was 
. Slow play always works there, but like said, with good players, it's a different story. But with these normal visitors, you can't buy the pot, so that's a huge risk, never try, I have tried it and never again online
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