Tory leadership frontrunner attacks multiculturalism

[Zulu Elephant]

Shadow Home Secretary David Davis is calling on the government to scrap its "outdated" policy of multiculturalism.

Allowing people of different cultures to settle without integrating let the "perverted values of suicide bombers" take root, he told the Daily Telegraph.

The leadership hopeful urged ministers to build a single nation and demand "respect for the British way of life".

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Not so much a thread about the merits of multiculturalism - more about the politics around this speech.

Is this really the way to win a tory leadership contest? As the current front runner, does leaping into a divisive issue like this help or hurt him? Are these opinions more acceptable after this month's events?

[molly bloom]

Re: Tory leadership frontrunner attacks multiculturalism

Originally posted by Zulu Elephant


Are these opinions more acceptable after this month's events?

For some, alas, yes.

I'm all in favour of scrapping S4C and compulsory Morris dancing.

Oh, and state funding for religious schools and separate sectarian education in Northern Ireland.

Taken to its logical extension that's what scrapping multiculturalism entails.

[Az]

Allowing people of different cultures to settle without integrating let the "perverted values of suicide bombers" take root, he told the Daily Telegraph.

He's right.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Az

He's right.

Whereas presumably allowing separate religious schools in Northern Ireland had no deleterious effect whatsoever.

Hmmm... which British party has a significant number of unionists ?


It's a cheap and easy play to the gallery for the Tories.

[Zulu Elephant]

He's right.

I don't think he is - but I'm asking about this speech in relation to the leadship contest, not it's particular rights or wrongs.

It's a cheap and easy play to the gallery for the Tories.

I thought the idea of taking the vote away from regular party members and giving it back to the MPs was to make sure that the MPs could choose a centrist leader.

This kind of language might appeal to normal party members but not MPs who realise that they can't isolate non-whites if they are to have a prayer of getting back into power.

[Az]

Whereas presumably allowing separate religious schools in Northern Ireland had no deleterious effect whatsoever.

Hmmm... which British party has a significant number of unionists ?


It's a cheap and easy play to the gallery for the Tories.

Oh, I have no doubt this is some sort of political posturing. I am just saying- what he said is true.

I don't think he is - but I'm asking about this speech in relation to the leadship contest, not it's particular rights or wrongs.

club thread .

[Zulu Elephant]

club thread

club thread?

[Combat Ingrid]

Multiculturalism is like communism. It's great in theory but thanks to human nature it's doomed to failure.

[Az]

Multiculturalism is like communism.

hey, **** you, I resent that.

[Combat Ingrid]

Huh?

[The Viceroy]

I think more important is to define multiculturalism, for me, as a white English guy, married to an Indian from Bombay .. my 2 children are multicultural, they take the values of both cultures and take them as there own.

What is not multiculturalism, is me moving to Bombay, living in a street with just English people, and not wanting anything to do with Indian culture, hating India and complaining about how ANGRY I am with Indian policy ..

If you don't like it... MOVE

[Combat Ingrid]

Viceroy: Yes, that's my point. The first case is what it should be like. However, the second case seems to be much more common

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Where's the surprise? Davis is a "hanger and flogger" of long standing, so it's no surprise to hear him attempting to cynically profit from disaster by playing to the right wing.

Meanwhile, seeing as I spent last Saturday in a Gurdwara with a lot of friends, I think I'll quietly mock the views that multiculturalism is doomed to failure. Culture is an organic and evolving thing, and multicultural evolution will happen whether it's welcomed or not.

[Krill]

**** it. If Davis wants every single person in this country to have the same values, I fail to see how he is any different to a suicide bomber.

[Caligastia]

There's multiculturalism and then there's multiculturalism. I'm all for enriching an existing culture with positive aspects from other cultures, but in practice multiculturalism also allows negative practices from other cultures to flourish because to do otherwise would be "intolerant".