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    China releases second generation MIPS microprocessor
    Submitted by Editor on Mon, 2005-07-25 14:01. Hardware

    China has started production of the 64-bit Godson-2 ("Dragon") microprocessor. Based on the popular MIPS architecture, this release could be an important step forward for China's semi-conductor design and fabrication industry. The CPUs is 95% MIPS compatible using an unauthorized and unlicensed variation of the MIPS architecture, which is owned by the American company MIPS Technologies.

    The CPU is made by BLX IC Design Corp and the company plans on using these chips for China's booming domestic consumer electronics market. If and when they are used in exported goods, the company may face legal challenges from MIPS Technologies for infringing on its intellectual property. The Godson-2 is pretty much a copy of the MIPS R10000 which makes it on par with 1995 technology.

    The move still shows that China is capable of designing complex microprocessors. The main restraint on their performance is that Chinese chip-fabrication technology lags about two generations behind the rest of the industry. The Chinese have been trying to gain access to state-of-the-art fabrication technology by outsourcing manufacturing to other foundries and by trying get chip companies to invest in manufacturing facilities in Mainland China.
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  • #2
    I bet people were laughing at Japan in the 60s/70s.
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    • #3
      Were they cloning 1950's tech?
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      • #4
        Why do you think the PRC doesn't attack Taiwan? It's their best chance to leapfrog directly to just below the cutting edge in chip technology, and the cutting edge of quality semi-conductor and circuit board manufacturing.
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        • #5
          Here I was thinking that Japan was innovating in the 60s/70s, using the transistors in things called "radios" and such. You know, moving technology and the industry forward...not to mention making fuel efficient cars in the late 70s.
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          • #6
            China has rockets! More than we can for France.

            A step forward is a step forward, even if it is a step we took decades ago.
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            • #7


              I predict an awful lot of Solitude being played in China's "domestic consumer electronics market".

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Japher
                China has rockets! More than we can for France.

                A step forward is a step forward, even if it is a step we took decades ago.
                I'm not sure that cloning a CPU is really that much of a step forward.

                If they designed their own chip and instruction set, then perhaps...
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                • #9
                  It is as far as a manufacturing is concerned, IMO.
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                  • #10
                    Manufacturing is a bit of a different industry, they're already at 150nm I think, which is not too bad.

                    The western world is at 90nm, nearly at 65nm...so China's only 2 generations/3-4 years behind there.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DinoDoc
                      Were they cloning 1950's tech?
                      Yes they copied all kinds of American stuff. Often exactly, including some funny examples where they copied damage. But they quickly got better and better and were soon copying contemporary stuff and then went on to developing better newer stuff.

                      China might be 10 years behind now but it'll catch up, give them 20 years and it the prospect is frightening.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MikeH
                        Yes they copied all kinds of American stuff. Often exactly, including some funny examples where they copied damage. But they quickly got better and better and were soon copying contemporary stuff and then went on to developing better newer stuff.

                        China might be 10 years behind now but it'll catch up, give them 20 years and it the prospect is frightening.
                        They're moving at a glacial pace...IIRC it was ~3 years ago that they cloned a CPU from 1993.
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                        • #13
                          Being Canadian I assume you've seen what a glacier does to a valley...
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Asher
                            Here I was thinking that Japan was innovating in the 60s/70s, using the transistors in things called "radios" and such.
                            I'm old enough to remember when "Made in Japan" meant junk.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                              I'm old enough to remember when "Made in Japan" meant junk.
                              It still does depending which backwards state you live in.

                              They made good stuff in the 70s.
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