U Sank My Carrier!

[Patroklos]

And these are anti-ship cruise missiles (like the harpoon) does a DDG really carry 60 of them? (I know they can't launch anything like 60 in a go though)

A DDG carries 8 Harpoon missiles on over the side mounts on the aft missile deck. Standard missiles are the most numerous missiles on the ship, you normally carry about 30 of them. They are duel air and surface weapons, but most effective against air. As far as small surface contacts go the 5" gun is the primary weapon.

The CIWS is a last resort weapon, even for carriers. If a missile ever gets to the carrier these days then the war is lost already because at the very least a cruiser has expended all its ordinance and been destroyed itself, assuming that is the only escort nearby.

Standard missiles are the best thing to counter other missiles, and as stated a DDG has around 30 at any time. That is assuming they do not detect and destroy the attacking aircraft before it fires, which is overwhelmingly the case.

Shore batteries for most of our enemies are really jokes.

I had a wonderful drunken time in UAE in 2004, only a buddy system was in effect. Really great people.

[Patroklos]

It mentions something called. RAM launchers. I'm not familiar with them. What are they and what do they look like?

RAM is a sort of replacement for CIWS. Most of the amphibs have at least on of there normal point defense mounts converted (confirmed this on my drive home from work today) and the new DDGs have cells in their for and aft launchers dedicated to it. A normal cell can carry four RAM missiles.

[DeathByTheSword]

about the phalanx system...i heard somewhere that the goalkeeper is a lot better system then the phalanx system...but that can just be over nationalsist talk of a friend of mine that is in the navy...any navy buffs know anything about that...

and flubber...put a rocket behind the torpedo...it used a solid fuel rocket but i dont know if it had booster but dont think so

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Smiley
Isn't it time for some Lazor already?

Indeed. What's this lousy navy that has frigates but no lazors?!

[chequita guevara]

Who would want a lazor? OR . . . Omitted radiation instead of Emitted radiation. So you have a gun that just sits there and does nothing.

[el freako]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Who would want a lazor? OR . . . Omitted radiation instead of Emitted radiation. So you have a gun that just sits there and does nothing.

Nice one!

[Ted Striker]

Lazors

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Who would want a lazor? OR . . . Omitted radiation instead of Emitted radiation. So you have a gun that just sits there and does nothing.

Wouldn't that just be a flashlight that's missing one wavelength?

[chequita guevara]

Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation

A laser doesn't have to be any particular color or wavelength. It is, in essence, simply a very concentrated beam of light.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

The wavelength of light emitted is tied to the lasing medium, though...while any given laser can have different wavelengths, a single laser only emits one.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation

A laser doesn't have to be any particular color or wavelength. It is, in essence, simply a very concentrated beam of light.

Bull

Lazors are green, torpedoes are blue, and fighters are red

[OzzyKP]

What would be the effectiveness, y'all think, of some kind of hidden mine system. Where charges of some kind were attached to the sea floor by divers, and fitting with something to take them to the surface. Maybe like a missle, maybe just a big pocket of air that would float it to the top if released from its chains at the bottom.

Could enemies just wait for our big ships to pass over a field like this, and then release all the weapons?

Would they be detectable by sonar?

Thats an interesting idea.

[Patroklos]

What would be the effectiveness, y'all think, of some kind of hidden mine system. Where charges of some kind were attached to the sea floor by divers, and fitting with something to take them to the surface. Maybe like a missle, maybe just a big pocket of air that would float it to the top if released from its chains at the bottom.

That is how a great many of the current mines work.

Unfortunetly the chances of a ship actually going over that point are small. All mines are really good for is closing harbors, and it isn't like our warships are going to sail into an enemies harbor.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Patroklos


That is how a great many of the current mines work.

Unfortunetly the chances of a ship actually going over that point are small. All mines are really good for is closing harbors, .

I imagine you could close some of the major straits in the world as well for a time. If it were done in a clandestine fashion, I imagine that a regular looking freighter could seed mines in a number of places. Don't some countries have abilities to airdrop some types of mines into the sea as well ??


Could this be an area for future terrorism-- ie the indiscriminant laying of mines in sea channels offshore of western nations?

[Patroklos]

I imagine you could close some of the major straits in the world as well for a time.

As far as countries, it would be highly illegal to mine international waters, especially if your doing in prep for war as opposed to during one.

it were done in a clandestine fashion, I imagine that a regular looking freighter could seed mines in a number of places.

I am sure any such attempt would be noticed in any major waterway.

Could this be an area for future terrorism-- ie the indiscriminant laying of mines in sea channels offshore of western nations?

Surface floating mines perhaps, but the others are too advanced and the scale of the operation would make it far to resource consuming for a terrorist. They would get a dozen normal bombings for the effort to tether one mine to the ocean floor.