U Sank My Carrier!

[Ted Striker]

"Oye, vatos, dees English sink todos mi ships, chinga sus madres, so escuche: el fleet es ahora refloated, OK?"

[Ted Striker]

Really though I hope we are paying attention to this "exculsion zone" with alot of diligence. Most of us have the illusion that a carrier battle group is impregnable.

[Patroklos]

Really though I hope we are paying attention to this "exculsion zone" with alot of diligence. Most of us have the illusion that a carrier battle group is impregnable.

That is the problem, we can't enforce the exclusion zone because 99/100 it will be some dumbass fisherman who just doesn't give a **** or doesn't understand our need to maintain such a zone for our safety (and theirs). So we just let them come up close, like 50 yards. So if you wanted to suprise us then 50 yards isn't hard to cover, even if I light you up with the .50 inertia will still get you to the ship.

what is the average range a torpedo is fired from

2-5nm.

Of course you could fire much closer than that, and you could fire at a much greater range to.

[MikeH]

2-5 nanometers?!

[Saras]

NAUTICAL MILES. Never thought I'd have to explain that to a BRIT!

[Saras]

Made my day

[MikeH]

Originally posted by Saras
NAUTICAL MILES. Never thought I'd have to explain that to a BRIT!

Oh really? I had no idea what you meant and was entirely serious in my question.

[Saras]

thank you for 2 minutes of sheer bliss

[MikeH]

Hmm. You been talking to my girlfriend?

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Really though I hope we are paying attention to this "exculsion zone" with alot of diligence. Most of us have the illusion that a carrier battle group is impregnable.

I ave no such illusion. But I think that modern naval warfare is much like naval warfare on Smax in that those getting the first shot usually have a huge advantage.

The carriers biggest strength is its ability to kill pretty much everything on or over the ocean in a set radius around itself. If US airpower and missiles keep enemies a couple of hundred miles off, you seriously reduce the numbers and types of weapons that will be capable of hitting the carrier and you also give the escorts more time to take out incoming weapons.

The carrier's weakness is that it is huge. That can help if it gets hit though as my understanding is that a carrier can expect to survive (not sink) a single hit from even a major weapon BUT it may lose its fighting capability

My understanding is that it would be standard doctrine to try to mislead the enemy as to the position of the carrier group to the extent possible . Thats just not that easy in the persian Gulf

[Flubber]

Originally posted by DeathByTheSword
true enough (the liability of the torpedo is the reason it was never produced) but turning isnt really needed if they move with +mach speeds (what is the average range a torpedo is fired from?) i think and the concept i think can work properly

So it is ENTIRELY THEORETICAL ??

My problems are the following

1. It doesn't sound like something that could be launched from a submarine

2. This creation of a "wall of bubbles" sounds very much like something a carrier group may notice so I'm thinking there would be a dozen torpedos and depth charges incoming before you got a shot off.

3. I'm no expert on torpedos but I'm thinking that and ability to turn would be key. There will always be all sorts of electronic interference so assuming your torpedo will be targetted dead centre is wrong. A sub would probably not be able to go active and survive in the vicinity of a carrier group and my understanding is that current torpedo technology is designed around the idea of firing pretty close to the target in the hope that you can guide it to contact or its own seeker systems will take it to target. I doubt that many fixes are such that you have a well defined position to target

[Lancer]

Originally posted by SpencerH
Can anyone tell me what weaponry a 'fishing boat' carries that could sink a carrier?

Mercury enhanced tuna.

[Senethro]

hay guyz surface navy pwns amirite we shud spend more $$$ on big boats nothing to learn from wargames at all

WOO AMERICA NUMBER ONE!1

[Kuciwalker]

[Frankychan]

That's why America needs to start making sub carriers. Sure, they won't hold as much planes, but the stealth factor would be unbelieveable. Probably would only be able to hold up to 10 planes at most.

Or choppah's.