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[chequita guevara]

Subs still use torpedoes?

[Asher]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Subs still use torpedoes?

Of course, why wouldn't you?

They're harder to destroy than most missiles these days.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Asher

Of course, why wouldn't you?

They're harder to destroy than most missiles these days.

They're slow and have limited range and once you fire them, you're going to die.

[Asher]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
They're slow and have limited range and once you fire them, you're going to die.

New torpedoes aren't all that slow, a lot of them are very quiet as well.

Given how easy it is for the subs to sneak around, it's not that simple.

[DeathByTheSword]

the russians developed faster then sound torpedoes...try invading that...

[Patroklos]

New torpedoes aren't all that slow, a lot of them are very quiet as well.

Given how easy it is for the subs to sneak around, it's not that simple.

New torpedoes are not fast enough to make them any more effective. And no, Torpedoes are very loud be their very nature, not to mention that the vast majority are active. Torpedoes are not as deadly to surface combatants as popular perception thinks. But if they do find you it is all over.

Nobody really argues that it is not easy for subs to sneak around, but deisels also require snorkleing.

[DeathByTheSword]

i say again...try saying: torpedo in the water before you are hit with a mach 1.1 torpedo fired at you from normal shooting range...

and before anybody is going to say: 'you are lying'...no i am not lying the developed 1.1 mach torpedos and tested them but never commissioned them this was in the 70's so with modern technology +1mach torpedos are a very good idea in my book...

[TheStinger]

you are lying

[DeathByTheSword]

well atleast i talked my talk before you said it

[Flubber]

Originally posted by DeathByTheSword
i say again...try saying: torpedo in the water before you are hit with a mach 1.1 torpedo fired at you from normal shooting range...

and before anybody is going to say: 'you are lying'...no i am not lying the developed 1.1 mach torpedos and tested them but never commissioned them this was in the 70's so with modern technology +1mach torpedos are a very good idea in my book...

Link? Source ?? proof ??

Considering the speeds that "regular" torpedos attain, lets just say I am a little suspicious of Mach 1 torpedos

I call BS

[DeathByTheSword]

the speed is attained by creating bubbles around the torpedo effectively suspending it in air instead of water. put a rocket behind that and done...i will look for some sources on the web but saw designs and photos of the thing during my aerodynamics and propulsion class

[TheStinger]

It was developed at the same time as sahrks with laser beams

[Flubber]

As to surface navies generally, I would think they would still have good survivability on the open ocean ( assuming no one uses nukes) with a large exclusion zone. All the things people are saying about how easily planes and missiles kill ships would apply even more to to the small vessels approaching the US navy.

If the navy has air cover and a sub escort and creates a large exclusion

[Patroklos]

There are such torpedoes, but they proved more of a liability than they were worth.

And the fact that they can't turn, or they hit the water wall and are destroyed.

Remember the Kursk

[DeathByTheSword]

true enough (the liability of the torpedo is the reason it was never produced) but turning isnt really needed if they move with +mach speeds (what is the average range a torpedo is fired from?) i think and the concept i think can work properly