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  • #241
    Is there any subject that won't degenerate into LOTM pontificating about Judaicism?

    @JohnT: With Kid against you, you can't lose! Carry on the good fight!
    Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

    It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
    The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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    • #242
      Sure was nice of JohnT to leave a link to the church in question. Makes it much easier for me to let them know who ratted them out to Disney.

      Fairs fair after all.

      ACK!
      Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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      • #243
        JohnT
        B♭3

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        • #244



          Its just that it has something to say about EVERYTHING.

          And I esp. like to bring it out when we're into a "christians vs secularists" discussion. Which we are alot.

          You will notice that i didnt say a word about it in my discussions of geographic determinism with GePap.
          "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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          • #245
            No I won't, since I didn't read your discussions of geographic determinism with GePap.

            Incidentally, Diamond overstates the case.
            Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

            It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
            The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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            • #246
              'Economist Lester Thurow claims that only in nations whose culture derived from practices of Judaism,
              Christianity and Islam, all of which share a vision of man as "created in God's image", is the creative power of the individual assumed to be worthy
              of property protection'

              "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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              • #247
                "To whom it may concern, at Pixar or Disney

                I am very offended that you took my name and story, added your own message, which was a distortion of the facts of my life, and was spun to spread your own particular political-environmental agenda, which I do not share. This seems to me a very serious breach of all that intellectual property law is about. Please respond, or I will be contacting my lawyers shortly

                Pocahantas"
                "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                • #248
                  "To whom it may concern, at Dreamworks, SKG.

                  You have a REALLY big IP battle coming up. And no, I dont care that y'all are nice Jewish boys.

                  Moses, AKA Moshe Rabbenu NOT "prince of egypt"
                  "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                  • #249
                    John T, i think you're right. Paul said if we are to follow Jesus, we shouldn't even do things that appear to be wrong. After nine pages, i guess we know that the church didn't get permission, so it is wrong.

                    I have my own axe to grind with Cristian t shirts. I took a group of kids to our national youth conference last month and saw some curious stuff on the shirts.

                    "Jesus loves me even with my tatoos and piercings": That one was good, I wanted one of those.

                    "Satan Sucks!": to me that ranks with stealing for Jesus

                    "Who needs constipated Christians? Fart for Jesus" Somewhere a Yout leader told his kids "yeah, Cindy, that's what Jesus is about..."
                    "Is your sword as sharp as your tongue"? Capt. Esteban
                    "Is yours as dull as your wit"? Don Diego Vega

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                    • #250
                      Originally posted by bayraven
                      "Who needs constipated Christians? Fart for Jesus"
                      I like that one. There are too many constipated Christians.
                      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                      • #251
                        Originally posted by JohnT

                        Dude, I am an excellent father.
                        Yeah, me too, when my oldest was three. By the time he was 16 he was in jail and I didnt feel so excellent. My best intentions and perfect plan for his life met with teenage rebellion and I lost.

                        That's when I sought out my own supernatural fairytale crutch. A few years later my middle son rebelled right into Islam. He is now the worship leader in another small church here in TN., and my olsdest wants to take over our family business.

                        All that to say this; the more you love them, the more they will seek to stand and think on their own. She will probably be a teenage Christian, and as a young adult she will give credibility to whatever you truly believe.
                        Since I'm dealing with a fairytale, you don't mind if I pray the teenage Christian thing sticks, do you?
                        "Is your sword as sharp as your tongue"? Capt. Esteban
                        "Is yours as dull as your wit"? Don Diego Vega

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                        • #252
                          All that to say this; the more you love them, the more they will seek to stand and think on their own. She will probably be a teenage Christian, and as a young adult she will give credibility to whatever you truly believe.


                          Bull****. Many, perhaps most kids do not rebel mindlessly against their parents in such things. Else, there'd be a hell of a lot more atheists.

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                          • #253
                            Who said mindless? There were inconsistancies in my approach to both sons. The rebellion was intentional and directed squarely at me.

                            The rebellion I see in the kids I deal with now is far from mindless

                            Jesus aint to popular with most kids, not even in the bible belt
                            "Is your sword as sharp as your tongue"? Capt. Esteban
                            "Is yours as dull as your wit"? Don Diego Vega

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                            • #254
                              Who said mindless? There were inconsistancies in my approach to both sons. The rebellion was intentional and directed squarely at me.


                              That doesn't make it mindless. Mindless rebellion is rebellion for the sake of rebelling.

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                              • #255
                                Originally posted by lord of the mark
                                "To whom it may concern, at Pixar or Disney

                                I am very offended that you took my name and story, added your own message, which was a distortion of the facts of my life, and was spun to spread your own particular political-environmental agenda, which I do not share. This seems to me a very serious breach of all that intellectual property law is about. Please respond, or I will be contacting my lawyers shortly

                                Pocahantas"
                                Only feebs vote.

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