The Beatles Vs. Phil Collins

[Dis]

I concede to the mighty Phil. His blurry, wet upper lip and huge watch are just overpowering.

[joncha]

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Dis
Beatles music sounds like crap. Their music ability doesn't impress me.

Your taste is crap. Your ignorance doesn't impress me.

You clearly no nothing about musical ability.

[Cort Haus]

Beatles.
Phil Collins

Attempts to compare the two.

Posting ultra-wide pictures just to be childish and extremely annoying.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Cort Haus


Your taste is crap. Your ignorance doesn't impress me.

You clearly no nothing about musical ability.

You'll have to prove to me they are talented. it's pop music. It's all it is. They couldn't even hope to match the complexity and talent of classical music.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
Phil collins alone is greater than Ringo alone, and George alone for sure.

This is clearly madness.

[curtsibling]

Re: The Beatles Vs. Phil Collins

Originally posted by Ninot
Friend and I are having a silly infantile debate, so I wanna see what Apolyton has to say.

For whatever reason you deem valid, who was better (in their prime), The Beatles, or Phil Collins(with or without Genesis)?

I say we flung both the Beatles and Collins from the airlock.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Dis


You'll have to prove to me they are talented. it's pop music. It's all it is. They couldn't even hope to match the complexity and talent of classical music.

In a sense, the Beatles reinvented classical music.

Classical music is about melody and harmony on the western scale. At least it was until the 20th century, where in an attempt to break new ground these essentials were ignored when the composers threw out the baby with the bath water. The Beatles returned to classical music's traditions with strength of melody and depth of harmony.

The songwiting and arrangements of The Beatles is actually far more sophisticated than most 'pop' bands, which is why it's not true to dismiss it as 'only pop'. The intro to 'I am the Walrus' has over a dozen chords, for example, which is not characteristic of popo intros.

Even their early, relatively simple poppy stuff has very complex guitar arrangements that require two guitars working together harmonically. Most pop songs can be played on a single guitar and a single voice without losing the feel of the song. Beatles stuff just doesn't sound right unless the harmonies of guitars and vocals are there.

To say that they are not talented is like saying that Michael Schumacher can't drive.

Anyway, no-one is trying to say that the Beatles are better than J.S Bach, just better than Phil Collins.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
Phil collins alone is greater than Ringo alone, and George alone for sure.

But it is hard to say who is greater from Phil, Paul and John.

This is not about individual Beatles, IMO. It's about the band as a collective.

It has been said that Ringo Starr was not only not the best drummer in the world, he was not even the best drummer in The Beatles. As far as drumming goes, Phil Collins takes the points, but The Beatles were not about drumming, they were about song-writing and arrangements. Phil Collins as a solo artist is not about drumming, but about song-writing and arrangements. This is the ground to be contested.

[joncha]

Originally posted by Cort Haus
Beatles.
Phil Collins

Attempts to compare the two.

Posting ultra-wide pictures just to be childish and extremely annoying.

Are you suggesting that the premise of this thread is deserving of anything else?

[SlowwHand]

I don't think many of you give Harrison his due.

[Ninot]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
I don't think many of you give Harrison his due.

In a different world, Harrison could have written every song the Beatles ever performed, and they'd still be huge, and better than Phil Collins

[CrONoS]

Genesis with P. Collins at drums


Begins at. 2:00min
Supper's ready, songs from heaven.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOMA37tOdXI&mode=related&search=

[Heresson]

Genesis

[SlowwHand]

Ginger Baker.