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    Disgraced former aboriginal leader David Ahenakew was unapologetic and combative after he was convicted yesterday of promoting hatred against Jews, blaming the media, a judicial system he called racist and the Jewish community for his predicament.

    “I hope my trial has revealed some of the frustration and pain of my people. . . . If an Indian slips a little bit, you are crucified,” the 71-year-old former leader of the Assembly of First Nations told reporters, adding that he intends to appeal the ruling.

    Provincial Court Judge Marty Irwin ruled that Mr. Ahenakew was willfully promoting hatred against an identifiable group when he told a reporter in Saskatoon on Dec. 13, 2002, that the Jews were a “disease” and Hitler was trying to “clean up the world” when he “fried six million of those guys” during the Second World War.

    “To suggest that any human being or group of human beings is a disease is to invite extremists to take action against them,” the judge said in his 20-page decision.

    Legal experts have called this case an important and provocative test of the country's hate-crime laws, which have traditionally tried to balance free-speech rights against protection of equality and minority rights. Mr. Ahenakew is believed to be the first member of a visible minority group convicted under the laws.

    Besides railing about his conviction, for which he was fined $1,000, Mr. Ahenakew noted that authorities unfairly began the process of removing him as a member of the Order of Canada before a verdict was reached.

    “This, of course, was the direct result of the pressure put on the [Governor-General's] advisory committee by some of the Jewish community, including a letter-writing campaign and the lobbying by the Canadian Jewish Congress,” he said. On his lapel was the Order of Canada pin he received in 1978.

    “The decision by the advisory council is a clear indication of where the power in this country lies,” he said. Later, he said he doesn't intend to return it. “They are going to have to take it away.”

    Rideau Hall spokeswoman Lucie Brousseau said Mr. Ahenakew hasn't officially contacted them regarding his status in the Order.

    Several times during the news conference, Mr. Ahenakew's lawyer, Doug Christie, advised him not to answer questions, including one seeking clarification of what he meant when he said the Jewish lobby was responsible for the decision to take away the Order of Canada.

    “Don't answer that question. He doesn't have to answer questions that will get him charged with criminal offences,” Mr. Christie said.

    Judge Irwin said he didn't accept Mr. Ahenakew's explanation that he was ambushed by an insensitive self-promoting reporter.

    “Your demeanour bordered on self-confidence to the point of arrogance,” the judge said about the audiotaped interview.

    He also rejected Mr. Ahenakew's claims that his comments were prompted by diabetes, two glasses of wine and a recent change in medication.

    Mr. Ahenakew told the packed courtroom that despite his conviction, he would continue trying to lead “my people.” He also said he would urge aboriginals to use the country's hate-crime laws to protect themselves from racism.

    While Mr. Ahenakew publicly apologized for his comments a few days after they were published, at his four-day trial last April, he said he stood behind them.

    “I didn't mean to hurt people's feelings, but that's all I've learned all my life,” he told the judge yesterday. “That's what my people experience, day in and day out.”

    Judge Irwin said that he didn't impose any jail time or the maximum fine — $2,000 — because he didn't want to make Mr. Ahenakew a “martyr for bigots and racists.”

    He also didn't include Mr. Ahenakew's remark to a Saskatoon aboriginal conference that Jews started the Second World War in his decision because he said a person has the right to form an opinion. But he called the comment “historically inaccurate,” “outrageous” and “obscene.”

    “This case forces all of us to focus on our biases and prejudices,” the judge told the courtroom. “And to succeed as a province and a nation we have to come to a far deeper understanding of one another.”

    Mr. Ahenakew's comments and trial have caused tension between Saskatchewan's aboriginal and Jewish communities.

    Outside the courthouse, one of his supporters said the Jewish community unnecessarily punished the former leader by not accepting his apology and pushing the incident into the courts.

    Jim Sinclair, a former Métis leader, later added that while he doesn't agree with Mr. Ahenakew's comments, he's disappointed that many aboriginal groups, including the Assembly of First Nations, haven't stood by the married father of five.
    What a TOOL.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch.
    ~ If Tehben spits eggs at you, jump on them and throw them back. ~ Eventis ~ Eventis Dungeons & Dragons 6th Age Campaign: Chapter 1, Chapter 2, Chapter 3, Chapter 4: (Unspeakable) Horror on the Hill ~

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      * Yes. I used to work in the Academie Francaise, but it didn't do me any good at all,

      A-- and I once worked in the library in the Prado in Madrid, but it didn't teach me nothing, I recall. And the Library of Congress you'd have thought would hold some key, But it didn't, and neither did the Bodleian Library. In the British Museum I hoped to find some clue. I worked there from nine till six, read every volume through, But it didn't teach me nothing about life's mystery. I just kept getting older, and it got more difficult to see, Till, eventually, me eyes went and me arthritis got bad, And so now I'm cleaning up in here, but I can't be really sad, 'Cause, you see, I feel that life's a game. You sometimes win or lose, And though I may be down right now, at least I don't work for Jews.
      Speaking of Erith:

      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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      • #4
        The judicial system is racist, and its the Jews' fault


        ROFL
        urgh.NSFW

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        • #5
          I think all the people, cultures, races, tribes, etc. should just all come together as one big group and blame it all on the French.



          /me goes to France
          I'm consitently stupid- Japher
          I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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          • #6
            ...

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            • #7
              bouncing

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              • #8
                Who does that leave in control of Hollywood?

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                • #9
                  Why the heck would an aborigine have it in for the Jews?
                  When you say aborigine, do you mean an Australian aborigine?
                  The guy should be p.o.'d at the Brits, not the Jews.
                  "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                  • #10
                    It appears that his bigotry, shockingly, is irrational.
                    "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

                    Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
                      Why the heck would an aborigine have it in for the Jews?
                      When you say aborigine, do you mean an Australian aborigine?
                      The guy should be p.o.'d at the Brits, not the Jews.
                      When we say "aboriginal" with no mention of Australia we mean American Indian or Inuit

                      Saying "aborigine", on the other hand, does draw up images of Australia.

                      This guy was a Cree (?) leader from Western Canada.
                      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                      Stadtluft Macht Frei
                      Killing it is the new killing it
                      Ultima Ratio Regum

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                        Oh, and the article also mentions "Métis" (May-Tee)

                        FYI: Métis comes from the word for "mixed", and is used in the Canadian context to describe a person who is of mixed French-Canadian and Native American ancestry (generally a large proportion of each). Métis are especially prevalent in Manitoba, Western Ontario and Saskatchewan. The province of Manitoba was, in fact, formed in response to the establishment of a Métis provisional government in that area. Later on, the leader of that government (Louis Riel) rebelled against the GoC, which sent in the troops and crushed the rebellion. Riel was hanged for his part in the Métis rebellion.
                        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                        Stadtluft Macht Frei
                        Killing it is the new killing it
                        Ultima Ratio Regum

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                        • #13
                          Legal experts have called this case an important and provocative test of the country's hate-crime laws


                          I'm confused. Is this a test of 'hate-crime' laws? Or 'hate-speech' laws? I don't see any other crime done.. or is it simply a crime to hate in Canada now (which I'd call a 'hate-speech' law)?
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • #14
                            It's a hate-speech law.
                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
                            Ultima Ratio Regum

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                            • #15
                              Ted Stryker should have been French. When it comes to pretty women, whatever the race or nationality, their motto is - "I'd hit it." Or however one would say that in French.
                              The worst form of insubordination is being right - Keith D., marine veteran. A dictator will starve to the last civilian - self-quoted
                              And on the eigth day, God realized it was Monday, and created caffeine. And behold, it was very good. - self-quoted
                              Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
                              Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry… I wish it were otherwise.

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