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  • Originally posted by Ninot
    Even tho the timing with the summit is impecable, I'm starting to believe that whatever terrorist group did this didn't care about what day it was on.

    In the past, have the dates the terrorists chosen have any reason to be those days, or were they just apparently random?
    "It was on September 11 1683 that the conquering armies of Islam were met, held, and thrown back at the gates of Vienna. "

    Thats been tossed about, but never confirmed that that was the reason for the date chosen. Indeed, would they use a Gregorian date, rather than date in the muslim calendar?
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    • To trick us?

      Nah, they are probably a bit to 'professional' to make something of the date.

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      • Then why a bomb on Thursday?


        I don't know. Why bomb on Thursday when the G8 summit started on Wednesday?
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        • Both can be deadly. And as we remember from our history classes, the first 'terrorists' were anarchists making bombs in the early 1900's and shooting world leaders...
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          As I was stating, that was my initial impression- considering how important G8 is to anarchist/anti-globalist groups. "
          Ignoring that this wave of assassinations more or less died out a century ago, there's a pretty strong distinction between assassinating repressive rulers and randomly bombing subways and trains.
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          • All I was saying was that I had initially thought that some crazies who were anarchists/anti-globalists might have thought they had historical justification in doing such acts.

            As time has proved- my initial thoughts were wrong- it's obviously the work of fundamentalist islamists.
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            • Well, that was an absurd thought that you had.
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              • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                Then why a bomb on Thursday?


                I don't know. Why bomb on Thursday when the G8 summit started on Wednesday?
                First full day of the summit?
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                • Seems to me random dates in general make more sense - although there's likely some connection to the G8 summit. If you plan everything for some significant date, your attacks become too predictable. On the other hand, there probably isn't a day during the year that you couldn't link somehow to some significant event sometime in history or the present.
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                  • Since the bombs where not in direct response to anything that was actually happening, it doesn't really matter when they go off, just as long as it's at a time and place where it will cause speculation and connections can be drawn between it and other events.
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                    • Originally posted by Ramo


                      Ignoring that this wave of assassinations more or less died out a century ago, there's a pretty strong distinction between assassinating repressive rulers and randomly bombing subways and trains.
                      In fairness, there was one fairly nasty bombing on Wall Street, that ended up killing lots of ordinary folks - clerks, etc.

                      But that was 80 years ago. The class basis of modern anarchism is different, the social situation different, and so the tactics are different. This looks to have been AQ, Im 99% sure.

                      Big questions 1. Was it suicide bombers, planted bombs, or both? 2. Was it A. AQ proper B. An AQ affiliate like Al Tawhid or C. A cell that formed more or less independently 3. Were the direct perps foreigners, or UK citizens/permanent residents?
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                      • the bombs in Madrid were detonated using cell phones. That wouldnt work on the underground, would it?
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                        • Just heard about it.
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                          • One small mercy is the terrorists don't seem to have been able to get enough explosives in to repeat Madrid.

                            But its another big success for them.
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                            • i cant reach my friends in london
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                              • Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
                                i cant reach my friends in london
                                Not getting through or they're not responsing?
                                What?

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