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  • #16
    Even if same law applies in theory, in practice it could very well mean little. See the example of the caste system.

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    • #17
      @ shawmmcc and VetLegion

      The caste system has been legally banned . And in practice , too , it has disappeared in the cities . Though I agree , Manu's code ( which established the caste system ) was as f***ed up as it can get . Thankfully , we're mostly over that .

      What is interesting in the latest religion-vs-common sense fight is that now religion is even more cornered than ever before . Like the printing press was vital to the Christian renaissance , the Internet is going to be one of the driving forces behind the Islamic modernisation . The point being that the internet is an order of magnitude more disruptive than books , and thus will force a much faster resolution of the dispute . "Faster" here can also have some very , very bloody consequences . I'd recommend the civilised world to sit back and treat the whole thing as an elaborate re-enactment of the Renaissance , only from within a Muslim context . It might be too painful otherwise .

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      • #18
        Aneesh,

        WTF? I thought India was a Hindu-dominated country....without the fundamentalistic Islamic influence? That's total b.s.

        I think Islamic FUNDAMENTALIST law is messed and needs progressive change. Dude, I'm just frigging shocked that a local law system can override a country-wide edict. Uniformity in law and order is probably the best bet a country can have.

        (But lets just hope Bush doesn't decide this with his radical views himself. Moderate, progressive views on Law and Order should prevail.)
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        • #19
          Sharia is an abomination of ignorance and wickedness.
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          • #20
            I did not say that ( though it is true ) .
            They did such a wonderful job in the USSR, Cuba, N Korea and China

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Straybow
              Sharia is an abomination of ignorance and wickedness.

              Semi-agreed. Sharia law is made by a patriarchical society that needs desperate moderate reforms. While I do not know everything about Sharia law, from what I have witnessed and have encountered, it needs gender-equality enlightenment.
              Despot-(1a) : a ruler with absolute power and authority (1b) : a person exercising power tyrannically
              Beyond Alpha Centauri-Witness the glory of Sheng-ji Yang
              *****Citizen of the Hive****
              "...but what sane person would move from Hawaii to Indiana?" -Dis

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              • #22
                Originally posted by aneeshm
                Like the printing press was vital to the Christian renaissance , the Internet is going to be one of the driving forces behind the Islamic modernisation .
                While I am also of the opinion that Islamic countries will be forced by world events to resolve their issues, I think you have the wrong media there.

                Not the internet.

                TV in every house. Hundreds of channels, all of them propagating western values. It raises expectations around the world as we speak, and it makes us more alike. TV can't be stopped (for better or worse).

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Berzerker


                  They did such a wonderful job in the USSR, Cuba, N Korea and China
                  In NK, they are not atheist. They simply have a different god.
                  urgh.NSFW

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                  • #24
                    NO country needs 'Christian' enlightenment. They need "enlightenment" without bias...
                    Despot-(1a) : a ruler with absolute power and authority (1b) : a person exercising power tyrannically
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                    • #25
                      better slightly-christian biased, than no enlightment at all.
                      urgh.NSFW

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                      • #26
                        False choice. Both Buddhism and Toaism have a much better record of toleration than Christianity (or Islam). So you can have your enlightenment, and tolerance too.
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                        • #27
                          Record is meaningless. Islam has a record of being one of the cultures that developed the arts and sciences. This isn't the case since a certain bunch of moustached men from the prairies of central asia decided to hang around the Fertile Crescent for some time ( making it quite infertile, btw )
                          urgh.NSFW

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Sandman
                            Is Hinduism any better?
                            Yes, though it has been radicalized by constant contact with Islam for centuries.
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                            But he touched it too much!
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Az
                              better slightly-christian biased, than no enlightment at all.

                              In this respect can I recommend Francis Wheen's new book, 'How Mumbo Jumbo Conquered the World'

                              Nicholas Lezard salutes Francis Wheen's attack on the forces of ignorance and irrationality, How Mumbo-Jumbo Conquered the World.


                              in which he takes aim at certain people such as astrologer consulting presidents and prime ministers who think that creationism is as valid a scientific viewpoint as Newtonian theory.

                              The anti-enlightenment is everywhere.
                              Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                              ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                              • #30
                                Islam needs its Luther.
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