Do you REALLY believe in God?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by MrFun
such atheist nonsense

MrFun - you may not like it, but atheism is the default, initial state. It takes a leap of faith to believe in a god.

[MrFun]

Part of being human is behaving inconsisently with whatever belief we have -- in other words, much to your shock Vet, none of us are perfect.

Every now and then in human history, we come across individuals who are very exceptional, and come extremely close to being 100 percent consistent with his/her belief.

[Alexander's Horse]

"The fool says, in his heart, There is no God." Psalm 14.1

There are 3 elements of the biblical understanding of atheism or Godlessness.

Firstly, Godlessness is equated with foolishness.

Secondly, it is of the heart, a sentiment rather than rational conclusion (contrary to everything atheists say).

Thirdly it is "said", in other words Godlessness is a faith, just like a religion, which is affirmed by the believer (which explains the evangelical side of so many atheists).

[Odin]

"Religion is a crutch for the weak-minded." -Jesse Ventura

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
"The fool says, in his heart, There is no God." Psalm 14.1

There are 3 elements of the biblical understanding of atheism or Godlessness.

Firstly, Godlessness is equated with foolishness.

Secondly, it is of the heart, a sentiment rather than rational conclusion (contrary to everything atheists say).

Thirdly it is "said", in other words Godlessness is a faith, just like a religion, which is affirmed by the believer (which explains the evangelical side of so many atheists).

Amusing. Bald assertion supporting more bald assertions.

[Frankychan]

Ah, I'm not one of those people that try to push his/her own beliefs on others...now THAT is wrong. That, and I'm not really a Western religion person so things aren't as black-and-white for me.

Pushing one's own (religious/spiritual) beliefs on others is probably the worst things a person can do. All this "Love thy Neighbor" is B.S. Why? Because it usually turns into "Love thy Neighbor...so long as they believe in the same thing you do. If not, then BURN THEM!!!" Total nonsense b.s.

I say it doesn't matter what one believes, so long as decency and respect for one another prevails.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


Amusing. Bald assertion supporting more bald assertions.

Of course. The leap of faith is required. Unless you make that leap, all belief in God is falsehood and fraud.

[Provost Harrison]

Have you ever considered it is a psychological phenomenon than anything real? Brainwashing is amazingly powerful and the unscrupulous peddler of religion has exploited this loophole of the human mind for millennia...shame really as now we have the tools to see them for the barren liars they are.

Gods, spirits, forces or whatever, it's still all a load of old cobblers...

[Alexander's Horse]

Yes to you it is all charlatanism - and then you're always coming here to tell us how miserable your life is, a Godless life.

[Kuciwalker]

It always fascinates me how AH's trolls can be successful even when he has the "cool" smiley in the upper-left corner of his post

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Amusing. Bald assertion supporting more bald assertions.

It's almost like communism, isn't it?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


MrFun - you may not like it, but atheism is the default, initial state. It takes a leap of faith to believe in a god.

I don't think there's anything different between believing in God and not believing in God. Both are leaps in faith.

[Alexander's Horse]

that was my point

agnosticism is the more intellectually defensible position for the unbeliever. To deny the possibility of God is idiotic and ignores all evidence.

There are more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on the seashore but provost says there is no God. Its like a bacteria in a petrie dish declaring there are no scientists.

[Kuciwalker]

To deny the possibility of fairies is idiotic...

[Alexander's Horse]

I think so too

As Shakespeare put it so well for you, and Agathon and UR and Provost and all the other flat earth small minded atheists,

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

--From Hamlet (I, v, 166-167)